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+WEBVTT
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+[Speaker 0]: I see 2 questions on the panel already.
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+Let's see, 1 asking how much Andrew uses
+
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+these ripples remotely or versus on their own
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+desktop. And another asking if this can be
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+integrated with EGLOT.
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+And I will note that it is very cool that
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+this year we've had so many talks on Ripples.
+
+00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:41.140
+Just goes to show how powerful Emacs is and
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+just how much or how far you can push it and
+
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+how much you can do with it.
+
+00:00:53.460 --> 00:00:53.960
+And so see someone asking on IRC,
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+if or how many people use GnuGeeks.
+
+00:01:01.400 --> 00:01:01.900
+Since we are talking about Scheme,
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+00:01:05.740 --> 00:01:06.220
+GnuGeeks is a great platform slash operating
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+00:01:10.380 --> 00:01:10.640
+system or distro for your test house,
+
+00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:12.420
+but also for servers and such.
+
+00:01:13.320 --> 00:01:13.780
+They do some impressive,
+
+00:01:15.240 --> 00:01:15.720
+amazing work. And it's all,
+
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+pretty much all done in Gindugal's scheme.
+
+00:01:30.260 --> 00:01:30.760
+So very cool stuff. Bye.
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+You
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+I see another interesting question on the
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+00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:23.940
+pad. How hard is it to add support for
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+something other than Guile?
+
+00:03:28.040 --> 00:03:28.200
+And if it makes sense to contribute at this
+
+00:03:28.940 --> 00:03:29.440
+early stage of development?
+
+00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:32.220
+They said that they've written several
+
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+packages for chicken skin before and they
+
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+would like to try this 1 as well.
+
+00:05:26.380 --> 00:05:26.880
+I guess since Andrew isn't still here,
+
+00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:29.640
+and there was some chatter about GnuGeeks in
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+00:05:32.400 --> 00:05:32.900
+the chat, maybe it might be nice for me to
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+share my screen and plug Inukis for a little
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+bit and introduce it or at least show its
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+website to folks who may not have seen it yet
+
+00:05:43.380 --> 00:05:43.880
+so I'm going to try and do that now.
+
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+You
+
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+Okay, let's see if this works.
+
+00:06:33.540 --> 00:06:34.040
+Okay, so this is GNU Geeks' website.
+
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+You can go to geeks.gnu.org.
+
+00:06:38.820 --> 00:06:39.180
+And they introduced it at the top.
+
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+So it's a wholly free operating system or
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+distribution of GNU Linux.
+
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+Meaning that it only has free software
+
+00:06:50.840 --> 00:06:51.340
+packaged and no non-free packages,
+
+00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:53.940
+so it is endorsed by the FSF and the GNU
+
+00:06:56.640 --> 00:06:56.920
+project. As someone said in the chat,
+
+00:06:57.740 --> 00:06:58.240
+it's kind of like Nix,
+
+00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:01.860
+but instead built on GNU Gallop scheme.
+
+00:07:05.320 --> 00:07:05.820
+It has transactional upgrades and rollbacks.
+
+00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:10.380
+So if you do upgrade your system and let's
+
+00:07:11.180 --> 00:07:11.420
+say in the middle of it,
+
+00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:13.700
+your hardware fails or your power goes out,
+
+00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:16.720
+the likelihood of things being corrupted is
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+00:07:18.840 --> 00:07:19.340
+very low because the upgrade is essentially
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+prepared like in the background.
+
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+And then pretty much atomically,
+
+00:07:26.780 --> 00:07:27.280
+the system is switched to it.
+
+00:07:30.400 --> 00:07:30.900
+And also if there is some kind of,
+
+00:07:32.400 --> 00:07:32.900
+sorry, I'm losing my voice here.
+
+00:07:34.840 --> 00:07:35.140
+If there is some kind of issue that makes
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+00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:36.300
+your system unbootable,
+
+00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:41.660
+you could always go back to booting the
+
+00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:44.760
+previous revision of your system when you
+
+00:07:46.100 --> 00:07:46.600
+restart in the Grub bootloader.
+
+00:07:56.740 --> 00:07:57.180
+Yeah, so they have a nice blog where they
+
+00:07:59.340 --> 00:07:59.540
+regularly post updates and what's new in the
+
+00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:01.500
+project. You can go check that out.
+
+00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:07.500
+We also have a packages archive where you can
+
+00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:09.560
+see a list of all the software that has been
+
+00:08:11.060 --> 00:08:11.560
+packaged for GNU Geeks.
+
+00:08:13.620 --> 00:08:14.120
+It is an impressive list.
+
+00:08:16.440 --> 00:08:16.560
+I don't know how many tens of thousands of
+
+00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:20.220
+packages there are. Geeks has been growing
+
+00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:22.840
+very well. And you can search the packages
+
+00:08:29.380 --> 00:08:29.540
+here. And yeah, all kinds of things are
+
+00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:32.299
+packaged. Of course, GNU Emacs is packaged,
+
+00:08:37.260 --> 00:08:37.760
+along with many extensions or packages,
+
+00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:41.260
+GNU Emacs packages that are packaged as
+
+00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:43.340
+system packages for Geeks.
+
+00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:47.460
+Yeah, so definitely go check it out.
+
+00:08:55.680 --> 00:08:56.180
+You can use Geeks both as a standalone
+
+00:08:59.340 --> 00:08:59.840
+package manager, let's say on a Debian-based
+
+00:09:00.780 --> 00:09:01.280
+distribution like Triscale,
+
+00:09:06.180 --> 00:09:06.340
+for example, or you could install it like as
+
+00:09:08.900 --> 00:09:09.400
+a complete system distribution on its own.
+
+00:09:15.560 --> 00:09:16.000
+So the former is useful if you want to maybe
+
+00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:18.420
+get a taste for Geeks and try it out before
+
+00:09:21.140 --> 00:09:21.300
+fully committing to it and switching to it as
+
+00:09:24.620 --> 00:09:24.800
+your main distro. You can try it on top of
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+00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:27.900
+any other distro pretty much and then you can
+
+00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:31.200
+of course install it on its own as well as a
+
+00:09:31.560 --> 00:09:32.060
+system distribution.
+
+00:09:50.940 --> 00:09:51.140
+Yeah, there are a bunch of manuals and
+
+00:09:53.040 --> 00:09:53.300
+reference cards and videos that you're
+
+00:09:55.920 --> 00:09:56.280
+welcome to watch. They have several mailing
+
+00:09:59.240 --> 00:09:59.440
+lists. It sounds like they have a wiki now as
+
+00:10:04.020 --> 00:10:04.400
+well. And the development is done on Gnu
+
+00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:10.180
+Savannah. If we go to savannah.gnu.org
+
+00:10:12.780 --> 00:10:13.280
+slash projects slash geeks,
+
+00:10:18.640 --> 00:10:18.820
+Yeah, the project is developed here and they
+
+00:10:21.300 --> 00:10:21.500
+have a bunch of repositories including the
+
+00:10:24.340 --> 00:10:24.840
+main 1 which is geeks.git
+
+00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:28.380
+itself. So yeah, folks are welcome to go
+
+00:10:32.380 --> 00:10:32.880
+check it out. Let's see,
+
+00:10:35.860 --> 00:10:36.260
+maybe we can go have a look at some package
+
+00:10:37.540 --> 00:10:37.840
+definitions, although I think we're almost
+
+00:10:38.940 --> 00:10:39.440
+out of time on the live stream.
+
+00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:43.100
+So, yeah, just quickly.
+
+00:10:45.280 --> 00:10:45.780
+Emacs to the CM has all the,
+
+00:10:48.640 --> 00:10:49.140
+Emacs packages or Emacs itself.
+
+00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:52.620
+And Emacs-xyz is where you'll find all the
+
+00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:54.980
+Emacs like ELPA packages,
+
+00:10:57.980 --> 00:10:58.260
+but package for use on GNU Geeks system or
+
+00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:01.360
+with GNU Geeks. And I think that's all the
+
+00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:04.580
+time that we have. So yeah,
+
+00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:06.300
+thanks for tuning in, folks.
+
+00:11:07.800 --> 00:11:08.300
+Please post your questions on the pad.
+
+00:11:09.280 --> 00:11:09.780
+We'll pass them on to Andrew.
+
+00:11:12.400 --> 00:11:12.720
+And yeah, hope you enjoy this.
+
+00:11:15.140 --> 00:11:15.360
+Definitely go check out Andrew's work and Gnu
+
+00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:25.580
+geeks as well. You are currently the only
+
+00:11:26.280 --> 00:11:26.780
+person in this conference.