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diff --git a/2022/talks/handwritten.md b/2022/talks/handwritten.md index 4416e704..2f7292de 100644 --- a/2022/talks/handwritten.md +++ b/2022/talks/handwritten.md @@ -28,6 +28,87 @@ This talk will introduce to you a simple system to integrate handwritten notes i - Option 2: Hardware for handwriting available +# Discussion + +## Notes + +- Tesseract is a free and open source tool to do OCR (may or may not + convert handwriting) + - <https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract> +- Karl Voit: I\'m not practicing handwritten OCR at the moment. From + what I\'ve read, offline handwriting OCR (offline OCR = not + recognizing while writing but form a (scanned) document) is only + implemented in a good way in highly proprietary services such as + Microsoft OneNote and Evernote and Apple Notes. Since I don\'t use + those services on purpose + (<https://karl-voit.at/2018/04/21/end-of-OneNote/>), I don\'t have + personal experience. I\'m still hoping that there will be a FOSS + solution one fine day. + - I\'m (rarely) taking notes on my BOOX Note Air e-ink tablet + (which I love). It has decent on-device offline-OCR but it\'s + really tedious to use it. So usually, I keep the notes as PDF + file and don\'t care to OCR it. Not great but at the moment I + can live with it. + - After all: I\'m much faster when typing on my keyboard + (<https://karl-voit.at/2021/03/21/advantage2-plans/>) - so if + there is no graphical information to be captured, I\'m faster + typing in Org mode than writing by hand. +- <https://capture2text.sourceforge.net/> \-- another potential OCR + solution that is FOSS, but supported only on Windows OS +- mathpix seems to support OCR now as well: + - <https://mathpix.com/blog/mathpix-text-ocr> + - <https://mathpix.com/handwriting-recognition> +- Leo Vivier owns an e-ink tablet: Boox Max Lumi (almost A4-size, + bigger brother of Boox Note Air) +- Digital pens and digitizing platforms help to get your notes from + analogue into digital form: + - [[https://www.wired.com/gallery/best-smart-pens/]{.underline}](https://www.wired.com/gallery/best-smart-pens/) + - Also, livescript uses special pens and tablets (erasable and + correctable) + +- [LiveScribe](https://www.amazon.com/Livescribe-Single-Subject-Notebook-4-pack/dp/B001AALJ1I/ref=asc\_df\_B001AALJ1I/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167151358503&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14286771041209503377&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027973&hvtargid=pla-359920653567&psc=1) + +## Questions and answers + +- Q: How do you link the notes together so that you could search + through them in the future? + - A: From text device or text then into an OCR method then through + Org-Roam. Paper to Jpeg photo from phone to OneNote to Org Mode + system. +- Q: Is it necessary to OCR your handwriting or change the way you + write to use your workflow? + - A: Yes, you have to do this to facilitate indexing and linking. +- Q: What about Searching notes, notes to text while being offline + - A: only proprietary software like Google Keep and Microsoft + OneNote can + - search with OCR, as far as Bala is aware +- Q:Those articles on notetaking seem interesting. Could we get a link + for them + - A: Will be Linked in this document above after talk +- Q:Have you looked at taking handwritted notes on a tablet like + Xournal++ + - A: Not yet, +- Q: Something to think about is handwritten and org transcribed notes + de-duplication for searching, do you want one or the other, both? + - A: + - side note: org-remark could be useful for this + <https://github.com/nobiot/org-remark> +- Q: How fancy has your handwritten notes import been to org mode, + Bullets, TODO , org tables etc\... + - A: Bala uses an asterisk on paper when writing tasks, and makes + them into org tasks during manual transcription. Would be really + cool to OCR org constructs from paper. TODO items etc. + - Handwriting helps thinking, speaking with an audience. Computers + have led to handwriting being less important, but Bala thinks + they\'re very efficient and important :) +- Q: How often do you instead type in and summarize your notes? Would + you consider that a suitable approach for yourself, e.g. at the end + of the day? + - A: when in a hurry, Bala types notes directly into Org Mode. + - not yet established a habit of daily journaling but wants to + - handwriting can be easier depending on language/script, + non-Roman script + [[!inline pages="internal(2022/info/handwritten-after)" raw="yes"]] |