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My name is Karl Voit, + +00:08.170 --> 00:11.360 +and I've spent the last decade + +00:11.360 --> 00:13.040 +working with Emacs Org Mode + +00:13.040 --> 00:15.280 +as my main organization system + +00:15.280 --> 00:16.880 +for my use cases, + +00:16.880 --> 00:19.760 +and I would like to take this opportunity + +00:19.760 --> 00:22.480 +and point out a subtle issue we've had + +00:22.480 --> 00:25.359 +in many different discussions around Org Mode, + +00:25.359 --> 00:27.519 +which itself stands for + +00:27.519 --> 00:29.679 +quite different kind of things. + +00:29.679 --> 00:31.760 +On the one hand side, + +00:31.760 --> 00:34.640 +Org Mode is an implementation in Elisp + +00:34.640 --> 00:36.559 +on the Emacs platform, + +00:36.559 --> 00:38.480 +and on the other hand side, + +00:38.480 --> 00:42.960 +Org Mode is also a lightweight markup language + +00:42.960 --> 00:45.760 +which we use to express things: + +00:45.760 --> 00:47.440 +how headings are marked, + +00:47.440 --> 00:49.840 +how text is made boldface, + +00:49.840 --> 00:51.680 +how external links are written, + +00:51.680 --> 01:01.920 +and so forth, in text documents. + +01:01.920 --> 01:03.920 +From my own experience, + +01:03.920 --> 01:05.920 +from many different online discussions, + +01:05.920 --> 01:09.600 +I once wrote a blog article on my web page + +01:09.600 --> 01:11.760 +that summarizes why I do think + +01:11.760 --> 01:13.200 +that Org Mode is superior + +01:13.200 --> 01:16.000 +to other well-known lightweight markup languages + +01:16.000 --> 01:21.040 +such as Markdown, AsciiDoc, reStructuredText and more. + +01:21.040 --> 01:23.360 +My main points in this article were that + +01:23.360 --> 01:25.040 +Org Mode is an intuitive + +01:25.040 --> 01:28.000 +and easy to learn and remember markup. + +01:28.000 --> 01:29.360 +It is standardized, + +01:29.360 --> 01:31.439 +as in the Emacs implementation + +01:31.439 --> 01:32.799 +defines the current standard, + +01:32.799 --> 01:35.360 +and there is no different Org mode version + +01:35.360 --> 01:38.159 +out there which conflicts with that. + +01:38.159 --> 01:41.040 +Org Mode is consistent + +01:41.040 --> 01:44.159 +within its markup language design. + +01:44.159 --> 01:48.640 +Org Mode can be easily typed in any text-based tool, + +01:48.640 --> 01:53.280 +and Org Mode makes much sense outside of Emacs, + +01:53.280 --> 01:55.360 +so that you can use it, for example, + +01:55.360 --> 01:58.719 +in email clients or in other text documents + +01:58.719 --> 02:01.040 +not interpreting the markup at all. + +02:01.040 --> 02:03.280 +And of course, if you want, + +02:03.280 --> 02:06.640 +you can have the perfect tool support within Emacs + +02:06.640 --> 02:13.760 +and other software tools. + +02:13.760 --> 02:15.440 +This naming issue, + +02:15.440 --> 02:18.560 +using one name for two different kind of things, + +02:18.560 --> 02:22.239 +arises in discussions about the markup's support + +02:22.239 --> 02:24.560 +in non-Emacs tools and services, + +02:24.560 --> 02:27.440 +in questions on levels of compatibility + +02:27.440 --> 02:30.080 +in comparison to the large and huge + +02:30.080 --> 02:32.959 +amount of functionality within Emacs, + +02:32.959 --> 02:36.319 +and so forth. + +02:36.319 --> 02:38.000 +In order to find a solution + +02:38.000 --> 02:40.160 +to some of those issues, + +02:40.160 --> 02:44.480 +I propose a different name. A new idea. + +02:44.480 --> 02:47.360 +A definition for the lightweight markup language, + +02:47.360 --> 02:51.200 +and the lightweight markup language alone. + +02:51.200 --> 02:54.000 +A new standard, which, by the way, + +02:54.000 --> 02:57.680 +reminds me on something here... + +02:57.680 --> 03:05.200 +Anyway... + +03:05.200 --> 03:06.640 +So we need a different name + +03:06.640 --> 03:08.159 +for this new thing, + +03:08.159 --> 03:09.840 +and its feature set needs to be + +03:09.840 --> 03:11.760 +something good enough + +03:11.760 --> 03:14.000 +to help adapting Org Mode syntax + +03:14.000 --> 03:16.560 +outside of the Emacs universe. + +03:16.560 --> 03:19.760 +It can't be the whole set of Org Mode features. + +03:19.760 --> 03:21.680 +This would kill the idea instantly, + +03:21.680 --> 03:23.519 +because everything that is going + +03:23.519 --> 03:24.720 +into that direction + +03:24.720 --> 03:26.959 +would be compared to our golden standards, + +03:26.959 --> 03:29.280 +the Emacs implementation of Org Mode, + +03:29.280 --> 03:31.120 +which cannot be compared + +03:31.120 --> 03:33.599 +to anything else at this time. + +03:33.599 --> 03:37.040 +So it needs to be somehow less than Org Mode. + +03:37.040 --> 03:41.040 +It needs to be recognizable in non-Emacs circles, + +03:41.040 --> 03:42.720 +and it should remind people + +03:42.720 --> 03:43.920 +on similar things + +03:43.920 --> 03:45.760 +in order to be something + +03:45.760 --> 03:49.760 +somewhat self-explanatory as a term. + +03:49.760 --> 03:54.000 +Hereby, I propose the name Orgdown + +03:54.000 --> 03:56.000 +for this thing, and it's launched + +03:56.000 --> 04:06.239 +with my Emacs Conference talk 2021. + +04:06.239 --> 04:09.360 +So what should Orgdown be? + +04:09.360 --> 04:11.439 +It should be a subset of Org Mode + +04:11.439 --> 04:14.400 +lightweight markup language syntax. + +04:14.400 --> 04:17.120 +It should be a definition of + +04:17.120 --> 04:18.880 +Org-Mode-based entities + +04:18.880 --> 04:20.880 +that do make sense on their own + +04:20.880 --> 04:22.720 +which is, in any case, + +04:22.720 --> 04:26.320 +always a compromise of some sort, of course. + +04:26.320 --> 04:29.919 +It needs to be extensible for different purposes + +04:29.919 --> 04:32.560 +to ensure future-proofness, + +04:32.560 --> 04:33.600 +and it needs to have + +04:33.600 --> 04:35.919 +a formal definition of Org Mode, + +04:35.919 --> 04:39.680 +which helps in becoming a new standard. + +04:39.680 --> 04:42.160 +it needs to be a self-sustaining community + +04:42.160 --> 04:45.040 +that supports the process by documentation + +04:45.040 --> 04:48.320 +and connecting people to other people, + +04:48.320 --> 04:52.080 +to the documentation, and to tools. + +04:52.080 --> 04:54.800 +What Orgdown should never be + +04:54.800 --> 04:57.280 +is something that's incompatible + +04:57.280 --> 04:59.759 +with Org Mode within Emacs, + +04:59.759 --> 05:08.560 +and some kind of Org Mode replacement, of course. + +05:08.560 --> 05:12.160 +The advantages of Orgdown for everybody + +05:12.160 --> 05:16.800 +includes better Org support in non-Emacs tools; + +05:16.800 --> 05:19.759 +to promote the beautifully crafted Org Mode syntax + +05:19.759 --> 05:21.520 +to a larger set of people, + +05:21.520 --> 05:23.759 +even outside of Emacs, of course; + +05:23.759 --> 05:26.560 +to push better support for the collaboration + +05:26.560 --> 05:28.800 +for Emacs and non-Emacs users + +05:28.800 --> 05:31.759 +for using text-based documents; + +05:31.759 --> 05:34.880 +finally, fix the irritating mix-up of + +05:35.919 --> 05:37.600 +markup language support + +05:37.600 --> 05:41.680 +and its Elisp implementation. + +05:41.680 --> 05:44.000 +I already mentioned briefly the need for + +05:44.000 --> 05:47.039 +a definition and extensibility. + +05:47.039 --> 05:48.960 +Therefore I came up with the idea + +05:48.960 --> 05:52.320 +of having different levels of Orgdown, + +05:52.320 --> 05:56.400 +and the first and most basic level of Orgdown + +05:56.400 --> 06:05.600 +is called Orgdown1. + +06:05.600 --> 06:09.759 +Orgdown1, or in short, OD1, consists of + +06:09.759 --> 06:11.759 +a small set of Org-Mode-based features + +06:11.759 --> 06:15.759 +such as simple text formatting, headings, lists, + +06:15.759 --> 06:19.520 +and checkboxes, example, quote, and source blocks, + +06:19.520 --> 06:22.479 +comments, external web links, + +06:22.479 --> 06:25.280 +tables without calculations. + +06:25.280 --> 06:27.120 +I tried to find a compromise + +06:27.120 --> 06:29.199 +that should work with most people + +06:29.199 --> 06:31.600 +starting with any lightweight markup + +06:31.600 --> 06:39.759 +that is based on Emacs Org Mode. + +06:39.759 --> 06:41.199 +In order to get a measure + +06:41.199 --> 06:43.759 +on how well Orgdown1 is supported + +06:43.759 --> 06:45.919 +by one specific tool, + +06:45.919 --> 06:47.759 +I came up with an OD1 + +06:47.759 --> 06:51.199 +compatibility percentage index. + +06:51.199 --> 06:54.080 +43 easy-to-check features such as: + +06:54.080 --> 06:56.800 +does it support highlighting of bold text + +06:56.800 --> 06:59.039 +using single asterisks? + +06:59.039 --> 07:00.800 +Each feature can be supported + +07:00.800 --> 07:02.880 +in a basic way (one point) + +07:02.880 --> 07:06.319 +or in an advanced way (two points). + +07:06.319 --> 07:08.319 +One point means it basically + +07:08.319 --> 07:10.080 +doesn't interfere with the tool + +07:10.080 --> 07:12.000 +in any negative way. + +07:12.000 --> 07:14.479 +Two points means that it provides + +07:14.479 --> 07:16.720 +active syntax highlighting, for example, + +07:16.720 --> 07:18.479 +or even tool-supported features + +07:18.479 --> 07:22.960 +like shortcuts to insert elements and such. + +07:22.960 --> 07:24.880 +Summing up those two levels + +07:24.880 --> 07:27.280 +for all those 43 features + +07:27.280 --> 07:28.479 +result in a number + +07:28.479 --> 07:29.919 +that can be compared + +07:29.919 --> 07:32.319 +to the maximum level there is, + +07:32.319 --> 07:36.319 +which results in a given percentage. + +07:36.319 --> 07:37.919 +By definition, + +07:37.919 --> 07:40.479 +Emacs provides full support + +07:40.479 --> 07:43.360 +of all Orgdown levels, + +07:43.360 --> 07:45.360 +and most tools support + +07:45.360 --> 07:48.240 +at least fifty percent of Orgdown1 + +07:48.240 --> 07:50.400 +as long as Orgdown1 syntax + +07:50.400 --> 07:52.720 +doesn't result in some markup conflict + +07:52.720 --> 07:57.039 +or tooling conflict or whatever. + +07:57.039 --> 07:58.560 +This emphasizes the idea + +07:58.560 --> 08:01.360 +that Orgdown can and should be used + +08:01.360 --> 08:04.879 +for personal notes anywhere and in general domains, + +08:04.879 --> 08:07.919 +just like writing emails, for example. + +08:07.919 --> 08:10.000 +I guess the majority of tools + +08:10.000 --> 08:12.720 +with a certain support for Orgdown1 + +08:12.720 --> 08:18.080 +will be in the area of 80s and 90s, percentwise. + +08:18.080 --> 08:20.639 +If Orgdown1 is not enough, + +08:20.639 --> 08:22.400 +there will be future definitions + +08:22.400 --> 08:24.960 +of Orgdown2, 3, or higher + +08:24.960 --> 08:27.599 +which will take more and more syntax elements + +08:27.599 --> 08:29.039 +from the Org Mode syntax + +08:29.039 --> 08:30.479 +and integrate it into + +08:30.479 --> 08:39.519 +the domain of Orgdown. + +08:39.519 --> 08:42.000 +So far, Orgdown1 is described + +08:42.000 --> 08:43.599 +on a public GitLab page + +08:43.599 --> 08:45.920 +which has already documentation + +08:45.920 --> 08:48.399 +on how to learn Orgdown, + +08:48.399 --> 08:50.560 +some syntax examples, + +08:50.560 --> 08:51.839 +frequently asked questions, + +08:51.839 --> 08:54.240 +and of course, with their answers, + +08:54.240 --> 08:55.920 +a collection of tools + +08:55.920 --> 08:59.279 +that already do support Orgdown in some way, + +08:59.279 --> 09:01.040 +and a few of them did already + +09:01.040 --> 09:02.640 +get evaluated by me + +09:02.640 --> 09:05.920 +and got their OD1 compatibility percentage + +09:05.920 --> 09:07.279 +in a table. + +09:07.279 --> 09:09.839 +Some ideas on how people can contribute + +09:09.839 --> 09:11.040 +to this new standard + +09:11.040 --> 09:13.839 +is also part of this new site. + +09:13.839 --> 09:17.200 +And of course, now I need your help + +09:17.200 --> 09:19.519 +in order to make this a success story + +09:19.519 --> 09:28.880 +for Org Mode and of course Orgdown. + +09:28.880 --> 09:31.360 +So please do contribute + +09:31.360 --> 09:33.279 +to the GitLab project pages + +09:33.279 --> 09:38.000 +and add tools and their Orgdown1-compatible percentages. + +09:38.000 --> 09:40.800 +For example, a template file is provided, + +09:40.800 --> 09:41.839 +of course. + +09:41.839 --> 09:43.680 +Please do add more parsers. + +09:43.680 --> 09:46.320 +Please use the term Orgdown1 + +09:46.320 --> 09:48.080 +to label tool properties + +09:48.080 --> 09:49.440 +for your own stuff + +09:49.440 --> 09:51.760 +and so that people do realize + +09:51.760 --> 09:53.839 +that your tools are already supporting + +09:53.839 --> 09:56.800 +this general use case of Org Mode. + +09:56.800 --> 09:58.640 +And there is no need to support + +09:58.640 --> 09:59.680 +all the Org Mode + +09:59.680 --> 10:02.160 +in order to profit from Org Mode syntax + +10:02.160 --> 10:04.320 +with Orgdown. + +10:04.320 --> 10:05.839 +You can spread the idea + +10:05.839 --> 10:07.279 +by promoting Orgdown + +10:07.279 --> 10:08.480 +as a separate term + +10:08.480 --> 10:09.680 +compared to Org Mode + +10:09.680 --> 10:11.279 +and its mixed up definition + +10:11.279 --> 10:21.279 +with the Org Mode Elisp implementation. + +10:21.279 --> 10:23.120 +And in case that Orgdown + +10:23.120 --> 10:24.880 +really resonates with you, + +10:24.880 --> 10:26.959 +you can add a formal specification + +10:26.959 --> 10:29.279 +to the GitLab project of Orgdown. + +10:29.279 --> 10:30.480 +I guess that some of the + +10:30.480 --> 10:33.040 +existing formal definitions of Org Mode + +10:33.040 --> 10:35.760 +already do qualify for Orgdown1 + +10:35.760 --> 10:37.920 +by stripping down to the few things + +10:37.920 --> 10:41.279 +Orgdown1 is concentrating on. + +10:41.279 --> 10:42.720 +You can create, for example, + +10:42.720 --> 10:45.760 +a language server protocol for Orgdown1 + +10:45.760 --> 10:48.000 +which would multiply the possibilities + +10:48.000 --> 10:50.000 +for adapting Orgdown1 + +10:50.000 --> 10:51.760 +in all kinds of editors + +10:51.760 --> 11:00.880 +by giving syntax highlighting, for example. + +11:00.880 --> 11:03.200 +And you may find the idea intriguing + +11:03.200 --> 11:07.440 +that Orgdown1 is a perfect markup language candidate + +11:07.440 --> 11:09.920 +for the Gemini project, + +11:09.920 --> 11:11.200 +which would be, in short, + +11:11.200 --> 11:14.240 +a linked web of plain Orgdown1 files + +11:14.240 --> 11:16.160 +that form a parallel internet + +11:16.160 --> 11:17.839 +without advertisements, + +11:17.839 --> 11:20.880 +malware-bloated web pages, and so forth. + +11:20.880 --> 11:22.160 +It's concentrating + +11:22.160 --> 11:23.920 +on the essential value of information + +11:23.920 --> 11:26.399 +in form of simple text files + +11:26.399 --> 11:29.279 +and links to other simple text files. + +11:29.279 --> 11:39.760 +I would love to see this. +happen someday + +11:39.760 --> 11:42.560 +In the meantime, let's kick-start Orgdown + +11:42.560 --> 11:45.120 +with Orgdown1 as the first level. + +11:45.120 --> 11:46.880 +Visit the GitLab page, + +11:46.880 --> 11:49.600 +hand in improvements for the linked tool sections, + +11:49.600 --> 11:52.240 +and spread the brilliant markup design + +11:52.240 --> 11:52.880 +of Org Mode, + +11:52.880 --> 11:56.000 +using Orgdown as a well-defined + +11:56.000 --> 11:57.839 +new standard. + +11:57.839 --> 12:01.079 +Thank you. diff --git a/2021/captions/org-outside.md b/2021/captions/org-outside.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..9a1cf57c --- /dev/null +++ b/2021/captions/org-outside.md @@ -0,0 +1,259 @@ +<a name="transcript"></a> +# Transcript + +[[!template text="Hello. My name is Karl Voit," start="00:00:05.520" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and I've spent the last decade" start="00:00:08.170" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="working with Emacs Org Mode" start="00:00:11.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="as my main organization system" start="00:00:13.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="for my use cases," start="00:00:15.280" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and I would like to take this opportunity" start="00:00:16.880" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and point out a subtle issue we've had" start="00:00:19.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in many different discussions around Org Mode," start="00:00:22.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="which itself stands for" start="00:00:25.359" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="quite different kind of things." start="00:00:27.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="On the one hand side," start="00:00:29.679" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Org Mode is an implementation in Elisp" start="00:00:31.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="on the Emacs platform," start="00:00:34.640" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and on the other hand side," start="00:00:36.559" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Org Mode is also a lightweight markup language" start="00:00:38.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="which we use to express things:" start="00:00:42.960" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="how headings are marked," start="00:00:45.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="how text is made boldface," start="00:00:47.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="how external links are written," start="00:00:49.840" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and so forth, in text documents." start="00:00:51.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="From my own experience," start="00:01:01.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="from many different online discussions," start="00:01:03.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I once wrote a blog article on my web page" start="00:01:05.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that summarizes why I do think" start="00:01:09.600" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that Org Mode is superior" start="00:01:11.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="to other well-known lightweight markup languages" start="00:01:13.200" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="such as Markdown, AsciiDoc, reStructuredText and more." start="00:01:16.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="My main points in this article were that" start="00:01:21.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Org Mode is an intuitive" start="00:01:23.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and easy to learn and remember markup." start="00:01:25.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="It is standardized," start="00:01:28.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="as in the Emacs implementation" start="00:01:29.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="defines the current standard," start="00:01:31.439" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and there is no different Org mode version" start="00:01:32.799" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="out there which conflicts with that." start="00:01:35.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Org Mode is consistent" start="00:01:38.159" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="within its markup language design." start="00:01:41.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Org Mode can be easily typed in any text-based tool," start="00:01:44.159" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and Org Mode makes much sense outside of Emacs," start="00:01:48.640" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="so that you can use it, for example," start="00:01:53.280" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in email clients or in other text documents" start="00:01:55.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="not interpreting the markup at all." start="00:01:58.719" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="And of course, if you want," start="00:02:01.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="you can have the perfect tool support within Emacs" start="00:02:03.280" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and other software tools." start="00:02:06.640" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="This naming issue," start="00:02:13.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="using one name for two different kind of things," start="00:02:15.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="arises in discussions about the markup's support" start="00:02:18.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in non-Emacs tools and services," start="00:02:22.239" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in questions on levels of compatibility" start="00:02:24.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in comparison to the large and huge" start="00:02:27.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="amount of functionality within Emacs," start="00:02:30.080" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and so forth." start="00:02:32.959" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="In order to find a solution" start="00:02:36.319" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="to some of those issues," start="00:02:38.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I propose a different name. A new idea." start="00:02:40.160" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="A definition for the lightweight markup language," start="00:02:44.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and the lightweight markup language alone." start="00:02:47.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="A new standard, which, by the way," start="00:02:51.200" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="reminds me on something here..." start="00:02:54.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Anyway..." start="00:02:57.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="So we need a different name" start="00:03:05.200" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="for this new thing," start="00:03:06.640" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and its feature set needs to be" start="00:03:08.159" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="something good enough" start="00:03:09.840" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] 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at this time." start="00:03:31.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="So it needs to be somehow less than Org Mode." start="00:03:33.599" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="It needs to be recognizable in non-Emacs circles," start="00:03:37.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and it should remind people" start="00:03:41.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="on similar things" start="00:03:42.720" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in order to be something" start="00:03:43.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="somewhat self-explanatory as a term." start="00:03:45.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Hereby, I propose the name Orgdown" start="00:03:49.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="for this thing, and it's launched" start="00:03:54.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="with my Emacs Conference talk 2021." 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video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="to ensure future-proofness," start="00:04:29.919" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and it needs to have" start="00:04:32.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="a formal definition of Org Mode," start="00:04:33.600" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="which helps in becoming a new standard." start="00:04:35.919" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="it needs to be a self-sustaining community" start="00:04:39.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that supports the process by documentation" start="00:04:42.160" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and connecting people to other people," start="00:04:45.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="to the documentation, and to tools." start="00:04:48.320" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="What Orgdown should never be" start="00:04:52.080" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] 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video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="for Emacs and non-Emacs users" start="00:05:26.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="for using text-based documents;" start="00:05:28.800" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="finally, fix the irritating mix-up of" start="00:05:31.759" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="markup language support" start="00:05:35.919" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and its Elisp implementation." start="00:05:37.600" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="I already mentioned briefly the need for" start="00:05:41.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="a definition and extensibility." start="00:05:44.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Therefore I came up with the idea" start="00:05:47.039" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="of having different levels of Orgdown," start="00:05:48.960" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] 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