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+I can, yes.
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+Okay, yeah, so I'm Zachary Kanfer,
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+let's go to the
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+questions. The first question, "Why
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+do we go top to bottom for time
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+progression,
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+and left to right for low to high?"
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+Interesting, I think…, so the initial
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+thing I was copying, that initial app
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+work this way, and
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+yeah, I mean, certainly traditional music,
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+you know, on a staff
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+does go left to right like this.
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+I mean, going top to bottom does make
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+it easier to add more beats without
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+having to wrap, but certainly that could
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+be managed.
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+Yeah, I had not really thought about
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+it, but it is definitely something worth
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+looking into.
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+Yeah.
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+Ah, good point, thank you. Let me go ahead
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+and do that.
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+The entire screen…
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+Okay, so the screen share should be
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+starting,
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+there we go. Cool, all right.
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+Two, "Will you play us another song?" Not
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+now, I can make some recordings of
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+it, or certainly you can try it.
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+I couldn't quite get the
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+microphone and the webcam and everything
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+to work with the sound playing now. So,
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+I can record some. Also, please…
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+I have put a link at the… here in the
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+Etherpad, zck.org/emacsconf2020 [updated],
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+where you can go and get the source,
+
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+and you can try it yourself. There's
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+no dependencies needed, so it's just all
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+in Emacs. So, please, you know, try it
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+yourself.
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+"Any chance for an Emacs tracker or mod
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+player?"
+
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+I don't really know what a mod player
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+or tracker
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+are, but I mean, I'm sure
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+that would be cool, maybe there's one
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+on now, but I don't know.
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+My musical background. So, I've played
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+various instruments since about the
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+third grade.
+
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+Started recorder, play cello, I play
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+guitar now.
+
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+But yeah, so just kind of random
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+instruments, and
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+I guess kind of some of those
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+things
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+influence how I think about music.
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+"Are there any open source musical
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+management sample libraries that could
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+be used?"
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+Good question, I'm sure there are, I
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+don't know any of that integrate really
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+well with Emacs.
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+One of the cool things that I liked
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+about this is that there are no
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+dependencies,
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+you know, you don't need any external
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+program to
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+generate the music. I mean, it does
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+shell out to
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+to play, but that
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+should be able to be done on any
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+operating system, as always, you have
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+something that can play WAVE files,
+
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+but yeah, it is interesting to kind of
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+try the different sounds and different
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+tones that you could get with
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+different instruments.
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+Have I written any actual songs?
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+Nothing super
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+well put together, I kind of just
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+been playing around with this.
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+It's kind of… making this was one of
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+those things where once I made it, I
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+was like, okay,
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+now I can play with it, and I did a
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+little bit, and was like, I don't know if
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+I feel like it right now.
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+You know, which I've found that to
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+be the case with some things that I've
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+implemented
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+in Emacs where it's… I make it, and then
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+it's the kind of some of the desire to
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+use it all the time
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+goes away, but I'm sure I'll circle back
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+around
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+at some point especially kind of maybe
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+once I add in different tones or
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+something.
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+I guess a similar question for
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+pre-recorded sounds. Yeah, I mean,
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+if it's… part of what I did, what I wrote
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+was a
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+WAVE generation library, so, if you kind
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+of have the data,
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+you could use those and chop them
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+up and take certain lengths of them
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+and make a WAVE file, so it's not plug and
+
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+play right now, but you could certainly
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+add those notes to do it.
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+"Any MIDI mapping possibilities?"
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+I haven't looked into it, but I'm sure
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+you definitely could output to MIDI
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+which is another benefit of having
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+that multiple layers with the top layer
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+is just,
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+you know, if the root note is this,
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+we're just two semitones up or seven
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+semitones up or whatever it is.
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+It should be relatively simple to
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+kind of switch out that layer underneath
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+from WAVE to MIDI or other things.
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+"What were some of the challenges with
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+writing a special mode for Emacs?"
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+Interested in getting into this, not
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+sure where to start.
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+There… yeah, it so…
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+this isn't the first mode I've written,
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+so that's right…,
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+certainly that helps. I actually…
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+I have a video that we recorded it
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+as part of EmacsNYC on making a major
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+mode.
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+That's basically starts from
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+nothing, and kind of builds up to
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+an implementation of tic-tac-toe,
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+but so it kind of goes into printing
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+things out and buttons and making the
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+mode.
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+I mean, one of the best parts about Emacs
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+is, because it's so
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+configurable and so introspectible,
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+you can start pretty simply,
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+and just kind of ask Emacs about things,
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+and then make one little
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+change. It's really… it's not that bad,
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+so, I'll try to throw a link up on that
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+page I put up, or
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+please email me for whoever asked this
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+question to get a link to that video,
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+or just look at the source
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+code of this or any other major mode.
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+Emacs makes it
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+pretty easy to extend
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+major modes. And I think that's
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+the last question
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+in the Etherpad, so, thanks so much
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+everybody for coming.
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+(Amin: Thank you so much
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+to Zachary for your awesome talk,
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+and for doing live questions.
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+Thank you.) Thank you. (Amin: Cheers.)