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diff --git a/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--17-org-mode-and-org-roam-for-scholars-and-researchers--noorah-alhasan-autogen.sbv b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--17-org-mode-and-org-roam-for-scholars-and-researchers--noorah-alhasan-autogen.sbv new file mode 100644 index 00000000..33aa48da --- /dev/null +++ b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--17-org-mode-and-org-roam-for-scholars-and-researchers--noorah-alhasan-autogen.sbv @@ -0,0 +1,1794 @@ +0:00:00.320,0:00:03.040 +good afternoon or good evening everyone + +0:00:02.639,0:00:05.440 +uh + +0:00:03.040,0:00:07.759 +today my talk is going to be on org mode + +0:00:05.440,0:00:10.559 +and or group for skulls and researchers + +0:00:07.759,0:00:12.639 +leo has talked about like the overall + +0:00:10.559,0:00:15.120 +picture of orgrim and or + +0:00:12.639,0:00:16.240 +uh bibtex or groundbreak tech i will be + +0:00:15.120,0:00:19.199 +talking more about + +0:00:16.240,0:00:20.320 +the research process itself using these + +0:00:19.199,0:00:22.400 +tools + +0:00:20.320,0:00:25.039 +all right so just to introduce that the + +0:00:22.400,0:00:28.080 +research process is really messy + +0:00:25.039,0:00:31.039 +um you're always working in like + +0:00:28.080,0:00:32.960 +piecemeal tasks and things move around + +0:00:31.039,0:00:35.280 +all the time and so + +0:00:32.960,0:00:36.880 +there needs to be a system where you can + +0:00:35.280,0:00:39.360 +organize all these tasks + +0:00:36.880,0:00:41.760 +all these ideas in a way that is + +0:00:39.360,0:00:44.239 +flexible and effective + +0:00:41.760,0:00:44.960 +so my motivation is that research is + +0:00:44.239,0:00:47.120 +hard and + +0:00:44.960,0:00:49.600 +writing about it is even more difficult + +0:00:47.120,0:00:51.120 +and my goal is to add some structure to + +0:00:49.600,0:00:52.800 +this whole madness + +0:00:51.120,0:00:54.480 +so here's a list of some of the stuff + +0:00:52.800,0:00:57.199 +that i've been using since i first + +0:00:54.480,0:01:00.160 +learned about emacs in 2019 + +0:00:57.199,0:01:02.000 +and what i've what i've found useful um + +0:01:00.160,0:01:05.199 +during my res uh like um + +0:01:02.000,0:01:07.920 +within my research process all right so + +0:01:05.199,0:01:10.400 +i've organized org mode for researchers + +0:01:07.920,0:01:12.400 +and scholars within the writing process + +0:01:10.400,0:01:14.320 +into three modules first there's like + +0:01:12.400,0:01:15.759 +the planning aspect of it + +0:01:14.320,0:01:17.680 +then you've got the writing and the + +0:01:15.759,0:01:18.320 +reference management which i will join + +0:01:17.680,0:01:20.560 +together + +0:01:18.320,0:01:21.920 +by looking at the example of doing your + +0:01:20.560,0:01:24.720 +literature review + +0:01:21.920,0:01:26.479 +all right so when we're talking about + +0:01:24.720,0:01:27.360 +planning we're talking about either task + +0:01:26.479,0:01:30.880 +management or + +0:01:27.360,0:01:31.600 +time management with task management + +0:01:30.880,0:01:33.840 +you've got + +0:01:31.600,0:01:36.159 +org modes to do's and tags and + +0:01:33.840,0:01:38.479 +categories these are really powerful + +0:01:36.159,0:01:41.600 +tools that you could use + +0:01:38.479,0:01:44.799 +um in your org files to just um + +0:01:41.600,0:01:47.040 +uh like organize your tasks and + +0:01:44.799,0:01:49.040 +your appointments so there are different + +0:01:47.040,0:01:50.960 +types of to-do's that you can either set + +0:01:49.040,0:01:52.799 +globally in your init file or they can + +0:01:50.960,0:01:55.200 +be file buffer specific + +0:01:52.799,0:01:56.079 +so that means based on context based on + +0:01:55.200,0:01:57.759 +the type of + +0:01:56.079,0:01:59.280 +manuscript you're working on whether + +0:01:57.759,0:02:02.240 +it's like a literate programming + +0:01:59.280,0:02:03.759 +report or your actual thesis slash + +0:02:02.240,0:02:05.840 +dissertation + +0:02:03.759,0:02:07.759 +um also these to-do's are either created + +0:02:05.840,0:02:11.440 +as a set tree like think of them as + +0:02:07.759,0:02:14.800 +headings and sections if you use latex + +0:02:11.440,0:02:15.360 +or inline text which are like org inline + +0:02:14.800,0:02:17.760 +tasks i + +0:02:15.360,0:02:19.120 +like organ line tasks because like i can + +0:02:17.760,0:02:21.520 +add + +0:02:19.120,0:02:22.879 +to do's between two paragraphs and that + +0:02:21.520,0:02:25.360 +way it doesn't show up + +0:02:22.879,0:02:27.280 +in the table of contents when i export + +0:02:25.360,0:02:30.879 +into pdf or html or + +0:02:27.280,0:02:34.319 +anything else all right so this is an + +0:02:30.879,0:02:37.360 +example of buffer specific to do's + +0:02:34.319,0:02:39.120 +and and this is example of like a little + +0:02:37.360,0:02:40.800 +programming report that i was working on + +0:02:39.120,0:02:43.200 +where i was like dealing with + +0:02:40.800,0:02:44.080 +data and like analysis and all of that + +0:02:43.200,0:02:47.519 +stuff and so + +0:02:44.080,0:02:49.440 +i needed um context specific to do's to + +0:02:47.519,0:02:52.080 +use them within this buffer + +0:02:49.440,0:02:54.319 +um and that's how i would organize it + +0:02:52.080,0:02:57.200 +and there's also also another example + +0:02:54.319,0:02:57.920 +of an org inline task where you could + +0:02:57.200,0:03:01.360 +see it + +0:02:57.920,0:03:03.040 +in the middle between the two headings + +0:03:01.360,0:03:04.959 +that way it wouldn't show up in the + +0:03:03.040,0:03:06.480 +table of contents and it would look like + +0:03:04.959,0:03:09.519 +nature within the + +0:03:06.480,0:03:11.920 +text when you export it + +0:03:09.519,0:03:13.280 +oh but i also added a tag of no export + +0:03:11.920,0:03:16.400 +so it won't show up at all + +0:03:13.280,0:03:19.360 +when i export it into like either pdf + +0:03:16.400,0:03:21.599 +which i use all the time all right so + +0:03:19.360,0:03:24.159 +another useful tool + +0:03:21.599,0:03:25.200 +um for the research and just like + +0:03:24.159,0:03:27.920 +general planning + +0:03:25.200,0:03:29.120 +is the org capture um when i first + +0:03:27.920,0:03:32.080 +started with emacs + +0:03:29.120,0:03:34.239 +actually it was for org agenda and i + +0:03:32.080,0:03:35.360 +went crazy with my capture template i + +0:03:34.239,0:03:37.599 +created a template for + +0:03:35.360,0:03:38.640 +everything um because i was just so + +0:03:37.599,0:03:40.720 +excited + +0:03:38.640,0:03:42.400 +but with time i was using less and less + +0:03:40.720,0:03:46.319 +of them so i kept taking them out + +0:03:42.400,0:03:48.239 +and now this is my simplified um + +0:03:46.319,0:03:49.599 +capture templates that i use either for + +0:03:48.239,0:03:52.159 +a general to do + +0:03:49.599,0:03:54.159 +um for a regular appointment a fleeting + +0:03:52.159,0:03:55.200 +note research tasks because like those + +0:03:54.159,0:03:56.959 +are what i focus on + +0:03:55.200,0:03:58.720 +like my bread and butter and then + +0:03:56.959,0:04:00.879 +finally with meetings which i find + +0:03:58.720,0:04:01.680 +sometimes i don't use it as much because + +0:04:00.879,0:04:03.519 +i would just like + +0:04:01.680,0:04:04.879 +have the org file ready instead of + +0:04:03.519,0:04:07.920 +needing to capture + +0:04:04.879,0:04:11.439 +you know open a capture template + +0:04:07.920,0:04:12.400 +right or agenda um that's how i got into + +0:04:11.439,0:04:15.439 +emacs + +0:04:12.400,0:04:16.799 +i needed to um organize my life and i + +0:04:15.439,0:04:19.199 +found emacs and + +0:04:16.799,0:04:20.479 +it's been great ever since um it + +0:04:19.199,0:04:22.720 +populates all your to-do's and + +0:04:20.479,0:04:25.280 +appointments into a singular view so the + +0:04:22.720,0:04:29.120 +default view i think it's a weak view + +0:04:25.280,0:04:31.919 +however i use org super agenda love this + +0:04:29.120,0:04:34.160 +um package and i set up my agenda as a + +0:04:31.919,0:04:37.360 +daily view with just appointments + +0:04:34.160,0:04:38.720 +deadlines and a habit tracker um and + +0:04:37.360,0:04:40.639 +a side note you guys i'm still + +0:04:38.720,0:04:42.320 +struggling with organizing the perfect + +0:04:40.639,0:04:45.360 +agenda so it's a process + +0:04:42.320,0:04:47.919 +and take it easy all right + +0:04:45.360,0:04:50.320 +so this is just an overview of my daily + +0:04:47.919,0:04:52.800 +agenda as you can see they're just like + +0:04:50.320,0:04:55.520 +appointments that i import from gmail + +0:04:52.800,0:04:57.919 +using org gcal + +0:04:55.520,0:04:58.880 +a simple habit tracker of like daily + +0:04:57.919,0:05:00.960 +free writing + +0:04:58.880,0:05:02.800 +as you can see there are a lot of times + +0:05:00.960,0:05:05.199 +where i'm skipping and the asterisk is + +0:05:02.800,0:05:08.479 +the one where i've completed that day + +0:05:05.199,0:05:10.080 +so you know it's a process and then just + +0:05:08.479,0:05:12.639 +like regular deadlines + +0:05:10.080,0:05:14.000 +so what happens is that i have other + +0:05:12.639,0:05:17.120 +to-do's that i have + +0:05:14.000,0:05:17.919 +not scheduled or not added a deadline + +0:05:17.120,0:05:20.560 +but they're just + +0:05:17.919,0:05:22.320 +tasks that keep piling up when i first + +0:05:20.560,0:05:24.880 +started with emacs and org agenda + +0:05:22.320,0:05:26.880 +i had everything in there and it got + +0:05:24.880,0:05:29.680 +overwhelming and then i decided no + +0:05:26.880,0:05:30.800 +i'm not gonna even let them show up so + +0:05:29.680,0:05:33.120 +what i would do + +0:05:30.800,0:05:34.479 +at the beginning of each week or the + +0:05:33.120,0:05:36.800 +night before + +0:05:34.479,0:05:38.000 +um i would sit down look at all my to + +0:05:36.800,0:05:40.720 +to-do's that i have + +0:05:38.000,0:05:42.639 +not assigned yet to a deadline or a + +0:05:40.720,0:05:45.360 +schedule or just a simple + +0:05:42.639,0:05:46.320 +timestamp um and i would organize them + +0:05:45.360,0:05:49.520 +throughout the week + +0:05:46.320,0:05:51.680 +so here's an example of what i did + +0:05:49.520,0:05:53.039 +so on that wednesday from my gmail i had + +0:05:51.680,0:05:55.600 +all these appointments but + +0:05:53.039,0:05:56.560 +one of them is i have a writing group + +0:05:55.600,0:05:58.400 +session + +0:05:56.560,0:05:59.759 +and so i looked at my tasks and i + +0:05:58.400,0:06:02.639 +thought okay then i will just + +0:05:59.759,0:06:03.520 +assign um like for example my emac + +0:06:02.639,0:06:06.319 +slides + +0:06:03.520,0:06:07.280 +or the framework diagram into that + +0:06:06.319,0:06:09.600 +writing session + +0:06:07.280,0:06:10.800 +and all i did was just add an active + +0:06:09.600,0:06:12.960 +timestamp + +0:06:10.800,0:06:14.000 +that is all i needed to do and it went + +0:06:12.960,0:06:17.120 +straight into my + +0:06:14.000,0:06:20.080 +appointment now if i miss that + +0:06:17.120,0:06:21.520 +it won't show up on the next day so if + +0:06:20.080,0:06:24.639 +you put in a deadline + +0:06:21.520,0:06:26.560 +it will show up as an overdue but if you + +0:06:24.639,0:06:29.280 +have no deadline or schedule it will not + +0:06:26.560,0:06:32.960 +show up in your daily org agenda + +0:06:29.280,0:06:35.680 +so just a star + +0:06:32.960,0:06:37.520 +all right another way of accessing your + +0:06:35.680,0:06:40.880 +to do's is that if it's + +0:06:37.520,0:06:42.160 +um file specific org file specific + +0:06:40.880,0:06:44.160 +buffer specific + +0:06:42.160,0:06:46.400 +and so like when we talked about like + +0:06:44.160,0:06:47.680 +whether to have a big ass org file or + +0:06:46.400,0:06:50.720 +like tiny files + +0:06:47.680,0:06:54.560 +it all depends and this isn't the the + +0:06:50.720,0:06:55.759 +um you know the way this depends + +0:06:54.560,0:06:58.400 +because if you're working on like a + +0:06:55.759,0:06:59.680 +dissertation um it's a huge manuscript + +0:06:58.400,0:07:02.880 +you need to like work + +0:06:59.680,0:07:05.759 +on that org file all the time um + +0:07:02.880,0:07:07.680 +then yes it might do should be in that + +0:07:05.759,0:07:08.000 +file specifically because every time if + +0:07:07.680,0:07:09.680 +i'm + +0:07:08.000,0:07:12.479 +if i'm visiting this org file all the + +0:07:09.680,0:07:15.520 +time i should be able to just look at my + +0:07:12.479,0:07:18.639 +tasks from uh within that buffer + +0:07:15.520,0:07:21.599 +and so i use org sidebar to + +0:07:18.639,0:07:22.960 +keep all these specific uh to do's + +0:07:21.599,0:07:26.560 +within that org file + +0:07:22.960,0:07:28.400 +i find it helpful okay + +0:07:26.560,0:07:29.759 +now that we're going into the writing + +0:07:28.400,0:07:33.039 +and reference management + +0:07:29.759,0:07:35.840 +we'll call it a literature review um + +0:07:33.039,0:07:36.639 +and this is something i've built as a + +0:07:35.840,0:07:40.240 +schema + +0:07:36.639,0:07:43.759 +i think that it works for now + +0:07:40.240,0:07:45.919 +um and it requires one outside pack + +0:07:43.759,0:07:47.680 +of outside software which is zotero what + +0:07:45.919,0:07:48.720 +i use it's an open source reference + +0:07:47.680,0:07:51.759 +management + +0:07:48.720,0:07:53.599 +software um it's great + +0:07:51.759,0:07:55.120 +but the things to keep in mind is that i + +0:07:53.599,0:07:58.319 +use two um + +0:07:55.120,0:08:01.039 +plugins that is really needed for when + +0:07:58.319,0:08:03.840 +we work with orgrim bibtex and orgrim + +0:08:01.039,0:08:06.160 +and org mode um and the zap file so + +0:08:03.840,0:08:07.039 +better bibtex organizes your reference + +0:08:06.160,0:08:10.560 +keys + +0:08:07.039,0:08:13.360 +um in um in a way like in a fashion that + +0:08:10.560,0:08:14.240 +works for you so for me all my reference + +0:08:13.360,0:08:17.280 +keys are like + +0:08:14.240,0:08:21.120 +last author and gear um and with zap + +0:08:17.280,0:08:22.319 +file i um i let it like rename all the + +0:08:21.120,0:08:24.400 +pdf files + +0:08:22.319,0:08:26.000 +the same way that i have for my bit of + +0:08:24.400,0:08:29.360 +my bib keys which is like + +0:08:26.000,0:08:33.440 +last name of author and year all right + +0:08:29.360,0:08:37.120 +once you export your entire + +0:08:33.440,0:08:39.440 +library as a bib file then you can work + +0:08:37.120,0:08:42.880 +on it within org mode and emacs + +0:08:39.440,0:08:45.040 +using um the following packages + +0:08:42.880,0:08:47.839 +all right so with orgrim bibtex it + +0:08:45.040,0:08:49.519 +creates an org file for each bib entry + +0:08:47.839,0:08:52.240 +and you have the option of like + +0:08:49.519,0:08:54.880 +templating and doing other stuff with it + +0:08:52.240,0:08:56.240 +and then finally there's like this orb + +0:08:54.880,0:08:58.800 +pdf scraper + +0:08:56.240,0:09:00.240 +i've used it briefly but i think the + +0:08:58.800,0:09:02.880 +potential + +0:09:00.240,0:09:05.920 +with or pdf scraper is if you're gonna + +0:09:02.880,0:09:08.320 +do a bibliometric study or like a + +0:09:05.920,0:09:10.000 +systematic literature view there's + +0:09:08.320,0:09:10.959 +something there but i have to look + +0:09:10.000,0:09:14.399 +through it + +0:09:10.959,0:09:16.880 +anyway so once you create your you know + +0:09:14.399,0:09:18.160 +your reference file of reference x and + +0:09:16.880,0:09:20.240 +you're writing your notes + +0:09:18.160,0:09:22.399 +you can either go like with going + +0:09:20.240,0:09:24.080 +through org mode you're writing + +0:09:22.399,0:09:26.080 +your ideas you're writing your notes + +0:09:24.080,0:09:27.839 +you're assigning tasks + +0:09:26.080,0:09:30.480 +and then there's org transclusion which + +0:09:27.839,0:09:32.240 +i will mention briefly at the end + +0:09:30.480,0:09:35.360 +and ways to extract if you're going to + +0:09:32.240,0:09:36.640 +go through the orgrom + +0:09:35.360,0:09:38.720 +things that you're going to use within + +0:09:36.640,0:09:40.000 +orgrom it's a great way to build your + +0:09:38.720,0:09:42.880 +database you start making the + +0:09:40.000,0:09:44.959 +connections and you can visualize your + +0:09:42.880,0:09:46.240 +notes and like how these references are + +0:09:44.959,0:09:48.839 +linked to each other + +0:09:46.240,0:09:50.240 +through the organ server or or ground + +0:09:48.839,0:09:53.120 +graph + +0:09:50.240,0:09:53.680 +all right this is just notes for later + +0:09:53.120,0:09:56.240 +okay + +0:09:53.680,0:09:57.360 +so this is an example of like an orgram + +0:09:56.240,0:09:59.279 +file that i have + +0:09:57.360,0:10:01.760 +for example if i'm working on adaptation + +0:09:59.279,0:10:02.560 +policy i have these hyperlinks that are + +0:10:01.760,0:10:04.959 +linked to other + +0:10:02.560,0:10:06.640 +concepts and ideas such as either + +0:10:04.959,0:10:08.720 +climate security + +0:10:06.640,0:10:10.560 +um changing global environment so on and + +0:10:08.720,0:10:13.920 +so forth and the backlinks + +0:10:10.560,0:10:15.839 +are other references that talk about + +0:10:13.920,0:10:17.680 +this specific concept + +0:10:15.839,0:10:19.920 +so this is really helpful and then when + +0:10:17.680,0:10:22.160 +you visualize it the picture on the left + +0:10:19.920,0:10:24.160 +which i'm sure looks really small + +0:10:22.160,0:10:25.680 +um you can see the connections that it's + +0:10:24.160,0:10:28.160 +making with other + +0:10:25.680,0:10:29.760 +references so of course this is just + +0:10:28.160,0:10:32.720 +like a buffer + +0:10:29.760,0:10:34.560 +network when you look at the entire + +0:10:32.720,0:10:38.000 +database network it's it's + +0:10:34.560,0:10:41.680 +it's growing okay + +0:10:38.000,0:10:44.079 +so going into organ bidtech + +0:10:41.680,0:10:46.000 +so it utilizes a combination of the or + +0:10:44.079,0:10:46.880 +graph package helmbik tech candidate + +0:10:46.000,0:10:50.079 +completion + +0:10:46.880,0:10:51.440 +and it works with orgrom functionalities + +0:10:50.079,0:10:54.880 +and + +0:10:51.440,0:10:57.440 +other good stuff this is an example + +0:10:54.880,0:10:58.720 +of my orgrim bibtex file all right so + +0:10:57.440,0:11:01.200 +i've created + +0:10:58.720,0:11:02.320 +um the template which i pretty much use + +0:11:01.200,0:11:05.920 +what leo + +0:11:02.320,0:11:08.640 +has uh produced like in his um + +0:11:05.920,0:11:10.160 +tutorial so i think it's it's great it + +0:11:08.640,0:11:12.880 +works well for me + +0:11:10.160,0:11:14.480 +um and what it does is that it works + +0:11:12.880,0:11:17.519 +with your bib file + +0:11:14.480,0:11:19.519 +so if you're in your bib file you have a + +0:11:17.519,0:11:21.040 +sub entry that's called keywords and + +0:11:19.519,0:11:23.120 +usually that's within + +0:11:21.040,0:11:24.560 +a journal article the author would + +0:11:23.120,0:11:27.519 +specify these + +0:11:24.560,0:11:28.160 +keywords um when it gets imported into + +0:11:27.519,0:11:30.399 +zotero + +0:11:28.160,0:11:32.399 +it extracts those keywords and then it + +0:11:30.399,0:11:34.959 +gets populated as an org file + +0:11:32.399,0:11:36.959 +with orgrim bibtex so i always start + +0:11:34.959,0:11:38.560 +with the meta information first and then + +0:11:36.959,0:11:42.480 +i would write my notes + +0:11:38.560,0:11:45.760 +after that this is an example though + +0:11:42.480,0:11:49.120 +for reference of a physical book so + +0:11:45.760,0:11:51.519 +i don't have a pdf file for it um + +0:11:49.120,0:11:53.920 +so what i've figured out like a new idea + +0:11:51.519,0:11:55.760 +for it so if i'm writing notes on it + +0:11:53.920,0:11:57.279 +i would create a property that says + +0:11:55.760,0:11:58.959 +pages um + +0:11:57.279,0:12:00.639 +that way it's easier for you when you go + +0:11:58.959,0:12:02.720 +back to citing + +0:12:00.639,0:12:04.720 +um certain ideas or something that you + +0:12:02.720,0:12:07.839 +have the pages prepared there + +0:12:04.720,0:12:11.279 +it's easier that way okay + +0:12:07.839,0:12:13.040 +org noter which is something i + +0:12:11.279,0:12:14.880 +use a lot especially with journal + +0:12:13.040,0:12:15.600 +articles that have pdfs and stuff like + +0:12:14.880,0:12:19.120 +that + +0:12:15.600,0:12:22.720 +they're really helpful if you are gonna + +0:12:19.120,0:12:23.760 +if you've just started using um emacs + +0:12:22.720,0:12:26.959 +and orgrim + +0:12:23.760,0:12:29.519 +and you have all these pdfs that have + +0:12:26.959,0:12:30.079 +all the annotations and highlighting and + +0:12:29.519,0:12:32.639 +the + +0:12:30.079,0:12:33.200 +all that stuff with org noter you can + +0:12:32.639,0:12:36.720 +just + +0:12:33.200,0:12:39.519 +use the org note or create skeleton + +0:12:36.720,0:12:41.200 +uh command and it will populate all your + +0:12:39.519,0:12:43.760 +notes that have already been + +0:12:41.200,0:12:44.800 +um entered within the pdf file if you're + +0:12:43.760,0:12:48.160 +using an outside + +0:12:44.800,0:12:52.560 +software and creates them like as a neat + +0:12:48.160,0:12:55.920 +org file i i highly recommend + +0:12:52.560,0:12:57.920 +finally org transclusion um + +0:12:55.920,0:13:01.040 +i think this is still in its beta phase + +0:12:57.920,0:13:02.720 +but i've been enjoying it so far + +0:13:01.040,0:13:04.800 +um i'm guessing people know what + +0:13:02.720,0:13:06.480 +translation mean which is sort of like + +0:13:04.800,0:13:09.600 +copy pasting text from + +0:13:06.480,0:13:11.839 +one org file to another this is helpful + +0:13:09.600,0:13:12.959 +i i think i i peeked at a question that + +0:13:11.839,0:13:16.320 +was talking about like + +0:13:12.959,0:13:18.320 +you know linking um to other org files + +0:13:16.320,0:13:20.320 +i think org transclusion could really + +0:13:18.320,0:13:24.399 +work okay it's + +0:13:20.320,0:13:27.760 +equivalent to the include + +0:13:24.399,0:13:29.519 +function within org mode um but i think + +0:13:27.760,0:13:32.560 +so like if you have other files + +0:13:29.519,0:13:34.800 +that you know which region that you + +0:13:32.560,0:13:36.079 +need in another file you could use the + +0:13:34.800,0:13:38.160 +include but with + +0:13:36.079,0:13:39.440 +org transclusion it's great i mean you + +0:13:38.160,0:13:42.720 +just have + +0:13:39.440,0:13:43.360 +um you're just linking one part to the + +0:13:42.720,0:13:45.760 +other + +0:13:43.360,0:13:47.760 +sort of like not refiling but you know + +0:13:45.760,0:13:49.680 +hyperlinking + +0:13:47.760,0:13:51.120 +so this is an example of what org + +0:13:49.680,0:13:53.680 +transclusion looks like + +0:13:51.120,0:13:54.720 +um so the highlighted problem statement + +0:13:53.680,0:13:57.760 +is from another + +0:13:54.720,0:13:58.240 +org file and then what i would do is + +0:13:57.760,0:13:59.760 +just like + +0:13:58.240,0:14:01.440 +link it to there and there was like a + +0:13:59.760,0:14:05.440 +transclusion command + +0:14:01.440,0:14:08.399 +i wish i made another screenshot of it + +0:14:05.440,0:14:09.120 +and so when you invoke org transclusion + +0:14:08.399,0:14:12.079 +mode + +0:14:09.120,0:14:12.480 +it turns um it prints it out like that + +0:14:12.079,0:14:15.120 +so + +0:14:12.480,0:14:16.560 +it's in view mode and then when you want + +0:14:15.120,0:14:18.480 +to edit it will take you back to that + +0:14:16.560,0:14:21.839 +buffer and you can edit the text + +0:14:18.480,0:14:22.720 +however you want all right so thank you + +0:14:21.839,0:14:26.000 +so much + +0:14:22.720,0:14:29.120 +um i wanted to leave room for questions + +0:14:26.000,0:14:32.560 +but special thanks to all the folks that + +0:14:29.120,0:14:33.440 +work on orgrom or ground bibtex orgrim + +0:14:32.560,0:14:36.320 +server or + +0:14:33.440,0:14:38.240 +transclusion and of course alpha papo on + +0:14:36.320,0:14:42.560 +or super agenda and org sidebar + +0:14:38.240,0:14:42.560 +that's how i got into emacs thank you + +0:14:43.440,0:14:47.120 +all right and uh well thank you so yeah + +0:14:45.600,0:14:49.120 +this time i'll be the one asking the + +0:14:47.120,0:14:51.360 +question and not i'm in so + +0:14:49.120,0:14:53.120 +i'm feeling filling big shoes right now + +0:14:51.360,0:14:54.880 +so you'll have to bear with me folks + +0:14:53.120,0:14:56.240 +so thank you so much noora for your + +0:14:54.880,0:14:57.279 +presentation that is incredibly + +0:14:56.240,0:14:58.959 +interesting + +0:14:57.279,0:15:00.800 +so would you mind if i fed you questions + +0:14:58.959,0:15:04.000 +from the charts yeah + +0:15:00.800,0:15:06.160 +go ahead okay so the first one i i've + +0:15:04.000,0:15:07.920 +picked on my end was did you try using + +0:15:06.160,0:15:10.560 +ebib instead of zotero + +0:15:07.920,0:15:12.079 +and if so is it better than zotero in + +0:15:10.560,0:15:14.880 +some ways + +0:15:12.079,0:15:15.680 +i no i have not used eb i've only used + +0:15:14.880,0:15:18.560 +mendeley + +0:15:15.680,0:15:20.320 +and then they got bought by el savior + +0:15:18.560,0:15:23.040 +and so like i was like okay i'm done + +0:15:20.320,0:15:25.120 +i'm going to zotero um there are a lot + +0:15:23.040,0:15:26.240 +of plugins with zotero that you can play + +0:15:25.120,0:15:28.320 +around with + +0:15:26.240,0:15:30.480 +so i can't speak for ebit but definitely + +0:15:28.320,0:15:32.079 +zotero it's been a good experience so + +0:15:30.480,0:15:34.880 +far + +0:15:32.079,0:15:35.360 +yes same i also i also do research on + +0:15:34.880,0:15:38.079 +the site + +0:15:35.360,0:15:39.360 +as i told you english major and yeah i + +0:15:38.079,0:15:41.839 +also do zotero + +0:15:39.360,0:15:43.759 +some people have been using uh a + +0:15:41.839,0:15:44.160 +connector between zotero and emacs which + +0:15:43.759,0:15:46.000 +has + +0:15:44.160,0:15:47.360 +they've had great success with them but + +0:15:46.000,0:15:50.480 +personally i haven't touched + +0:15:47.360,0:15:52.240 +touched it already so yeah + +0:15:50.480,0:15:53.920 +oh go ahead sorry all right so far i + +0:15:52.240,0:15:54.880 +don't have any problems with zotero but + +0:15:53.920,0:15:56.320 +maybe if i + +0:15:54.880,0:15:58.320 +run into something i might check out + +0:15:56.320,0:16:00.240 +ebay in the future + +0:15:58.320,0:16:01.680 +yeah definitely i think zotero is a very + +0:16:00.240,0:16:02.560 +solid project and you know the fact that + +0:16:01.680,0:16:04.959 +it's being used + +0:16:02.560,0:16:06.560 +by people outside of emacs also ensures + +0:16:04.959,0:16:07.680 +that there's quite a lot of packing + +0:16:06.560,0:16:09.759 +behind the software + +0:16:07.680,0:16:11.759 +which is reassuring when your livelihood + +0:16:09.759,0:16:13.519 +depends on your research + +0:16:11.759,0:16:15.600 +right and then i think one more thing + +0:16:13.519,0:16:17.519 +with zotero is that you can create + +0:16:15.600,0:16:18.079 +groups so if you're in a collaborative + +0:16:17.519,0:16:20.160 +project + +0:16:18.079,0:16:22.320 +you can create a reference you know a + +0:16:20.160,0:16:23.759 +library just for your group and i think + +0:16:22.320,0:16:25.279 +that could help because like i + +0:16:23.759,0:16:27.600 +i'm going to be in a project next + +0:16:25.279,0:16:29.839 +semester that requires that + +0:16:27.600,0:16:31.600 +yeah definitely i believe the ability to + +0:16:29.839,0:16:33.839 +have folders inside zotero + +0:16:31.600,0:16:35.360 +makes it incredibly useful to manage + +0:16:33.839,0:16:37.440 +your different projects concurrent + +0:16:35.360,0:16:39.279 +projects + +0:16:37.440,0:16:41.279 +so moving on to the questions do you + +0:16:39.279,0:16:43.440 +have any suggestion on what subjects or + +0:16:41.279,0:16:46.560 +things should be tags or separate organ + +0:16:43.440,0:16:50.320 +files for cross-linking + +0:16:46.560,0:16:52.720 +right um so so far now like i'm having + +0:16:50.320,0:16:55.360 +trouble with like should i be combining + +0:16:52.720,0:16:55.839 +certain concepts together as one like + +0:16:55.360,0:16:59.360 +this is + +0:16:55.839,0:17:00.959 +where the the thought process you know + +0:16:59.360,0:17:02.959 +starts coming to fruit is that when you + +0:17:00.959,0:17:04.880 +start you know combining + +0:17:02.959,0:17:06.480 +ideas together so you won't need a + +0:17:04.880,0:17:09.199 +specific tag + +0:17:06.480,0:17:11.280 +and another one that are like similar in + +0:17:09.199,0:17:12.720 +ideas + +0:17:11.280,0:17:14.799 +i'm not sure if that answers the + +0:17:12.720,0:17:15.919 +question but like so far i've been using + +0:17:14.799,0:17:17.919 +the orgrum + +0:17:15.919,0:17:19.039 +you know the default way which is like + +0:17:17.919,0:17:22.160 +many small + +0:17:19.039,0:17:24.400 +um files and then just + +0:17:22.160,0:17:26.319 +linking them to my like either if i have + +0:17:24.400,0:17:26.959 +a report to write or if i have a like + +0:17:26.319,0:17:32.240 +you know + +0:17:26.959,0:17:35.360 +essay to write + +0:17:32.240,0:17:37.760 +i think you're muted + +0:17:35.360,0:17:38.400 +q and i just i did two stupid things the + +0:17:37.760,0:17:40.640 +first one + +0:17:38.400,0:17:42.320 +was filling up my water the second one + +0:17:40.640,0:17:43.760 +was peeking without actually turning on + +0:17:42.320,0:17:45.760 +my microphone + +0:17:43.760,0:17:47.760 +so let's just hope that nothing is going + +0:17:45.760,0:17:48.320 +to fry in the near vicinity of me right + +0:17:47.760,0:17:49.840 +now + +0:17:48.320,0:17:51.440 +but uh yeah i believe you've answered + +0:17:49.840,0:17:53.200 +the question so don't worry about it i'm + +0:17:51.440,0:17:55.280 +slightly wet right now which is not a + +0:17:53.200,0:17:57.280 +very agreeable feeling but we'll have to + +0:17:55.280,0:17:59.360 +carry on i suppose + +0:17:57.280,0:18:01.600 +another question is there a place where + +0:17:59.360,0:18:04.320 +people are collaborating on research + +0:18:01.600,0:18:06.160 +about emacs so do you want to try to + +0:18:04.320,0:18:08.559 +take this one + +0:18:06.160,0:18:10.559 +um i don't know but i'm definitely + +0:18:08.559,0:18:12.480 +interested in the user experience of + +0:18:10.559,0:18:14.720 +emacs so + +0:18:12.480,0:18:16.400 +if anyone wants to work on that i'm + +0:18:14.720,0:18:18.320 +happy + +0:18:16.400,0:18:19.760 +well you do have a a pretty good + +0:18:18.320,0:18:22.080 +candidate in front of you if i + +0:18:19.760,0:18:22.960 +should say so myself i'm incredibly + +0:18:22.080,0:18:25.039 +interested about + +0:18:22.960,0:18:26.960 +um the ability to do research in emacs + +0:18:25.039,0:18:30.480 +and about the ability to + +0:18:26.960,0:18:32.480 +um preach the floss way + +0:18:30.480,0:18:34.080 +to academia and to the academe + +0:18:32.480,0:18:35.280 +especially because i believe there's + +0:18:34.080,0:18:38.240 +really something + +0:18:35.280,0:18:39.919 +great to be done sorry i'm just looking + +0:18:38.240,0:18:41.840 +at the puddle of water on the side which + +0:18:39.919,0:18:45.039 +is slightly oozing my way + +0:18:41.840,0:18:46.880 +which is not a very good feeling really + +0:18:45.039,0:18:48.320 +but yeah i believe i believe some work + +0:18:46.880,0:18:50.000 +could be done and if people are + +0:18:48.320,0:18:52.320 +interested in the chat right now + +0:18:50.000,0:18:53.440 +i mean do get in touch with us both + +0:18:52.320,0:18:56.480 +neuron and i + +0:18:53.440,0:18:57.280 +are on our slack channel yes i know + +0:18:56.480,0:19:00.080 +slack + +0:18:57.280,0:19:01.919 +the corporate hive mind that it's like + +0:19:00.080,0:19:02.720 +but we've decided with orgrim to use + +0:19:01.919,0:19:05.520 +slack + +0:19:02.720,0:19:06.880 +but you can find us very easily and uh + +0:19:05.520,0:19:07.360 +if you want to talk about these topics + +0:19:06.880,0:19:08.720 +yes + +0:19:07.360,0:19:10.720 +by all means do and we'll be very + +0:19:08.720,0:19:12.640 +interested to answer your questions + +0:19:10.720,0:19:15.520 +so i have a question here says like how + +0:19:12.640,0:19:18.640 +does the view for time blocking works + +0:19:15.520,0:19:22.000 +um i use org super agenda so + +0:19:18.640,0:19:23.200 +um what happens is that my active + +0:19:22.000,0:19:26.960 +timestamps are + +0:19:23.200,0:19:29.200 +only in my gmail or file + +0:19:26.960,0:19:30.080 +so if you use org gcal you have to + +0:19:29.200,0:19:32.559 +specify + +0:19:30.080,0:19:34.320 +a certain org file and when it you know + +0:19:32.559,0:19:35.679 +imports them it imports them as like + +0:19:34.320,0:19:38.400 +active + +0:19:35.679,0:19:40.480 +timestamps and i make sure whenever i + +0:19:38.400,0:19:42.480 +create a to-do or even a research task + +0:19:40.480,0:19:45.039 +that it doesn't have a time stamp on it + +0:19:42.480,0:19:48.480 +because what i want to do is go back + +0:19:45.039,0:19:50.160 +and then move around um these tags + +0:19:48.480,0:19:51.919 +according to my you know either weekly + +0:19:50.160,0:19:52.960 +schedule or monthly or however long you + +0:19:51.919,0:19:56.480 +want to do it + +0:19:52.960,0:19:59.679 +um so yeah only active timestamps or + +0:19:56.480,0:20:03.280 +deadlines um appear in your time grid + +0:19:59.679,0:20:05.440 +so that could work um that's very good + +0:20:03.280,0:20:06.320 +just just to uh interject for a second + +0:20:05.440,0:20:07.840 +about this + +0:20:06.320,0:20:10.720 +you know with orgrim right now we're + +0:20:07.840,0:20:13.039 +mostly uh focused on optimization + +0:20:10.720,0:20:14.720 +but we're hoping to move on to ux very + +0:20:13.039,0:20:16.720 +soon so all those matters about + +0:20:14.720,0:20:18.159 +you know having to do's in your files it + +0:20:16.720,0:20:20.000 +is something that we've been thinking + +0:20:18.159,0:20:20.880 +about with jethro kwan who is my main + +0:20:20.000,0:20:23.280 +commentator + +0:20:20.880,0:20:24.480 +or grow and we'll be working on this in + +0:20:23.280,0:20:26.080 +the coming months so don't worry too + +0:20:24.480,0:20:29.760 +much about it and stay tuned + +0:20:26.080,0:20:33.200 +yeah um so i've got the ebib + +0:20:29.760,0:20:34.080 +and what else um what subjects i think + +0:20:33.200,0:20:35.919 +okay + +0:20:34.080,0:20:37.120 +what is this question have you seen the + +0:20:35.919,0:20:40.400 +project papi's + +0:20:37.120,0:20:41.280 +i'm not sure what oh it's a zotero + +0:20:40.400,0:20:43.840 +alternative okay + +0:20:41.280,0:20:45.919 +i'll look into it thank you i don't know + +0:20:43.840,0:20:49.600 +i don't know about it either so + +0:20:45.919,0:20:53.200 +please look into it and let me know yeah + +0:20:49.600,0:20:55.679 +um have we covered all the questions + +0:20:53.200,0:20:56.880 +i believe we have and we have about + +0:20:55.679,0:20:58.880 +two-minute leeway + +0:20:56.880,0:21:00.240 +for me to move into the next talk so + +0:20:58.880,0:21:01.760 +we're right on time + +0:21:00.240,0:21:04.159 +all right thank you so much really + +0:21:01.760,0:21:05.440 +appreciate it and good luck everyone + +0:21:04.159,0:21:07.600 +well thank you and thank you so much for + +0:21:05.440,0:21:08.400 +coming and uh doing allowing me not to + +0:21:07.600,0:21:11.440 +be the only one + +0:21:08.400,0:21:14.559 +talking about all room today sounds good + +0:21:11.440,0:21:16.799 +all right thank you both very much + +0:21:14.559,0:21:16.799 +yes + |