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 # Trivial Emacs Kits
 Corwin Brust
 
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+[View transcript](#transcript)
 
 Techniques to help new users bootstrap a more gentle introduction to
 Emacs, one (short) init.el file at a time.
 
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 # Transcript
 
-Following is a somewhat hasty self-transcription of my talk.  Please
-don't hesitate to [mailto:corwin@bru.st](ask for clarification) or to
-add any clarifications you feel helpful back into the EmacsConf wiki.
-
 	There is a visual gimmick underlaying the initial remarks.  We are
 	looking at the first (first-slide ("Welcome") showing how the org
 	markdown looks on other editors, including cygwin emacs, Notepad++,
 	Sublime, VS Code, and cygwin vim.  As each is closed we see the next,
 	until we reveal GUI Emacs running org-mode in a full-both frame.
 
-My name is Corwin Brust and I will be talking about getting started
-with Emacs Today.  I have been an Emacs user for a long time-
-
-First of all thanks and a huge welcome to the conference..(_15s_)
-
-On behalf of and back to the other organizers. It has been cool to
-have a peek backstage.
-
-So.  I've used a lot of different editors in my time.  That's about 25
-years as a professional software engineer. And most of that
-time I've been using Emacs. (~54s_)
-
-I'll talk a little bit in a minute (if I can ever find my slides)
-about how I got into Emacs, but if you've used Emacs and a lot of
-other editors for a long time, something that you notice right away is
-that you get good with it in a way that stays meaningful. You learn
-new things, those things stick with you.  You learn how to- how to
-make it do new tricks and then keep doing those tricks. (~1m26s_)
-
-I want to mention this conference isn't about (whoops: "this talk")
-how to adjust your configuration specifically.  I don't have a bunch
-of good code samples in here.  There are a bunch of other great talks,
-especially Andrew's that I think may be aimed more at that "hey, I'm
-just getting started with Emacs what are some things to try to make it
-more comfortable for me starting?" [subject/audience? cezb]. (~2m07s_)
-
-This is about how to think about the problem space more. (_2m10s_)
-
-Hopefully a good way to warm up as we start thinking about some of the
-lightning talks later on.  (I'm going to bring up my IRC buffer
-[offscreen] in case I run into time- I didn't get my stopwatch started
-for this one.) (_2m25s_)
-
-So, alright: let's dive in. (_2m30s_)
-
-We assume that we want to install packages, and maybe configure some
-features. This is particularly from the perspective of where we're
-working with a bunch of others on a team and we want to get something
-done. (_2m42s_)
-
-Some of us probably have mature Emacs workflows, others may be
-installing it for the first time. (_2m50s_)
-
-So the first questions is, you know- in that context: what's the value
-proposition?  Why should I mess with my machine, my mature Emacs
-configuration, impose my way of thinking and ideas over the way
-somebody else is learning Emacs? (_3m09m_)
-
-It can be [laugh] I'm off my slides here a little bit.. (_3m13s_)
-
-It can be a little tricky to learn Emacs.  One thing that helps us a
-lot is if people that we are working with can tell us, kinda,
-keystroke-for-keystroke at times what to do and explain what
-everything is doing. (_3m30s_)
-
-And using the same packages as others can really help us working
-together on a project. (_3m36s_)
-
-Speaking from my personal experience, it took me decades to get to the
-point where I was excited to program in Emacs Lisp. (_3m26s_)
-
-I've programed in a lot of programming languages, but Lisp wasn't on
-my list.  I looked at my config, that I was copy-pasting around from
-generation after generation of .emacs file or re-crafting it by hand
-and from Internet searches, to get things that I needed when I would
-quickly go install Emacs to start some new job or contract, and
-quickly get though that work-flow that caused me to go install the
-program. (_4m15s_)
-
-You know, just simple little one-liners that got committed to memory
-over decades eventually just lead [me] to a sort of "hey, what's going
-on here".  (_4m27s_)
-
-And I credit my good friend Jeff Goff who died earlier in 2020 for my
-lifelong love of Emacs.  Perhaps Erik and I will talk a little more
-about that at another talk we have scheduled but Jeff was a huge
-influence on us in a number of ways and a huge contributer to the Raku
-programming language which is very cool. (_4m52s_)
-
-So, understanding how to make a good decision about splitting up
-configuration in a way to share it with people with really different
-uses of Emacs.  That's actually a complicated topic, and I want to off
-and stare at it for a second: (_5m11s_)
-
-I think Emacs is about people, so that means it is about community.
-And community means we're going to invite disagreement.  In fact that
-disagreement isn't necessarily a road-block to our project, in fact
-that some of the work our project can invite us to do is to get closer
-to each other by inviting those disagreements, by learning from people
-of different styles, and from how they argue, and thinking about why
-they have that perspective and what technical benefits that perhaps
-radical point of view might carry away.  Some people are really
-aggressive arguers others are very passive and really couch their
-ideas in distancing terms, "well probably this is a good idea" or
-"please double check me".  Those don't always indicate how certain a
-person is.  Because we're different.  We have different ways of
-communicating ideas such as certainty or excitement. (_6m23s_)
-
-When we thinking about a bunch of really diverse programmers
-approaching Emacs probably one of our first really big challenges is
-just to pick what we're going to go after.  There are a number of
-existing kit installs and things like this.  My argument is that you
-can get pretty far just trading files around.  And maybe the more
-value conversation to have is making the hard decisions, e.g. "should
-we have vertical completion", should that be out of the box and those
-that want the traditional splayed-out over a sing line such as the
-mode line will have to add a line to their configuration. (_7m26s)
-
-The way to get there?
-
-How do we find out what works?
-
-We don't want to slow down the people who are super productive with
-Emacs, and ask them to completely break their workflows to make it
-easier for new folks, at the same time we do want to make sure those
-new people. (_7m42s_)
-
-At the same time, we do want to make sure those new people arre
-excited by Emacs and not turned off by having to learn the entire
-jungle of Emacs history in the form of it's unique technical stylings
-in terms of frames, buffers, and other unique Emacs viewpoints on
-interface concepts, especially. (_8m15s_)
-
-The encouragement here is to keep using the project team as a
-crucible.  Rather than following the defaults of, um, finding the
-simplest customizations that generally work, what if we tried to look
-for fairly specific configuration that we'll expect basically all of
-our developers to be using, at least when the submit bug
-reports. (_8m48s_)
-
-In particular with this, I think that degree of experimentation can
-drive back into the Emacs development process.  In the development
-mailing list.. [] In the context of Emacs development as a greater
-entity, we see this struggle.  We have the sense that some things can
-"never" be change.  I think one thing that can help us get there is
-evidence that says "hey, my 30-40 person team is using this set of
-bindings and here is what we learned about new Emacs users coming in
-and trying that".  (10m)
-
-So let's just recap real quick: in theory Emacs works out of the
-box. That means we are free to throw it all away and start over.
-[trouble with slides, again]
-
-Our goal is to enable users- to unlock our computers, to do as much
-with them as possible. My work of encouragement is experiment with it.
-And think really specifically about how the development users may be
-different from each other, as you are configuring the development
-environment of emacs for developing on a project.
-
-That's my talk, etc, answer any questions.(_12m09s_)
-
-Do you use Emacs as a Community Building Tool? (_13m15s_)
-
-Do /i/ use Emacs a community building tool?  Or *how* do I use Emacs as a
-community building tool.  [amin: "it doesn't say"]
-
-Yes, absolutely.  I think Emacs is an ambassador to the gnu
-tool-chain.  in the fullness of time we will see an Emacs that will
-make others, Android and iOS, dream.  That's why that mock us and say
-that Emacs is an operating system.  It's because it could be, if cared
-for it to be. It's quite a threatening product in terms of the number
-of problem spaces it can address, how many types of users it can
-satisfy. (_13m01s_)
-
-And the things that we can do to make it robust in those environments.
-We're always thinking about the weak points but is Emacs a community
-building tool? Heck yeah. (_13m13s_)
-
-[we agree that I'll write my answers to the remaining questions, I say
-thanks more, and we're done.  ps, I'll get to your question or
-comments I can find a response to within the next week, I expect]
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+[[!template new="1" text="We don't want to slow down the people that are super productive with Emacs" start="00:07:33.344" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="by asking them to completely break their workflows" start="00:07:38.587" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="and make it easier for new folks." start="00:07:40.879" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="At the same time, we do want to make sure those new people" start="00:07:42.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="are excited by Emacs and not turned off by having to learn" start="00:07:48.673" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="the entire jungle of Emacs history in the form of its unique" start="00:07:52.720" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="technical stylings for things like frames, buffers," start="00:08:00.363" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="and other unique Emacs viewpoints" start="00:08:07.610" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="on important interface concepts, especially." start="00:08:11.668" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="The encouragement here is to keep" start="00:08:16.240" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="the initialization for a project team" start="00:08:19.520" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="together as a crucible." start="00:08:21.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Rather than necessarily following" start="00:08:23.280" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="our defaults of finding the simplest configurations" start="00:08:25.117" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="that generally work and letting people customize it," start="00:08:33.279" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="what if we tried to look" start="00:08:37.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="for fairly specific configurations" start="00:08:40.479" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="that we'll expect essentially all of our" start="00:08:42.346" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="developers to be using," start="00:08:44.159" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="at least when they submit bug reports." start="00:08:46.320" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="In particular, with this," start="00:08:52.839" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I think that degree of experimentation" start="00:08:55.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="can drive back into the Emacs development process." start="00:08:59.839" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="In the development mailing list..." start="00:09:02.584" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I'm hoping I'll get a timing cue here." start="00:09:04.800" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="In the context of Emacs development as a greater entity," start="00:09:15.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="we see some of these struggles." start="00:09:18.835" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Should we change this default?" start="00:09:20.959" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Sometimes we can have the sense that defaults in Emacs will never change." start="00:09:22.399" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="The conversation is too difficult." start="00:09:27.146" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I think one thing that can help us get there is evidence" start="00:09:29.279" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="that says, &quot;hey my 30- to 40-person project" start="00:09:32.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="is using this set of bindings," start="00:09:36.160" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="and here's what we learned" start="00:09:38.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="about brand new Emacs users trying to come in" start="00:09:40.111" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="and get work done with that.&quot;" start="00:09:42.240" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="(Amin: Yeah you still have" start="00:09:46.800" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="a couple more minutes.)" start="00:09:49.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Oh, beautiful. Okay, great." start="00:09:50.720" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I will try to get through my last few slides that I cut" start="00:09:51.984" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="in my last walkthrough, but I think I'm" start="00:09:54.720" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="going quicker today, thank you." start="00:09:56.320" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Thank you." start="00:09:58.320" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="So let's just recap real quick:" start="00:10:02.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="in theory, Emacs works out of the box." start="00:10:05.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="That means we're free to experiment." start="00:10:08.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="We can throw it all away and start over." start="00:10:12.853" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="As an organizational principle..." start="00:10:17.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I don't know what I was thinking on that slide, excuse me." start="00:10:26.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="Bringing it back around to the free" start="00:10:30.079" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="and open source software community," start="00:10:33.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="our goal is to enable users" start="00:10:35.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="to unlock their computers, to do as much" start="00:10:39.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="with them as possible." start="00:10:41.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="That's the context to take with project initialization, but sometimes" start="00:10:43.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="it could make sense" start="00:10:47.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="to put some gloves on." start="00:10:50.800" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I've thrown up on the screen here" start="00:10:52.032" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="just a couple of other ideas," start="00:10:53.766" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="ways to maybe think outside of the box." start="00:10:55.276" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="As you're putting together project nets," start="00:10:57.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="my words of encouragement are to experiment with it," start="00:11:01.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="try different things, and think really specifically" start="00:11:05.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="about how different the development users might be from each other" start="00:11:09.941" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="as you define standards for configuring" start="00:11:17.010" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="the user environment of Emacs" start="00:11:21.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="specifically for developing on a project." start="00:11:23.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="That's pretty much my talk." start="00:11:26.552" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="If there's any time, I would take a couple questions." start="00:11:29.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="(Amin: Thank you for your awesome talk, Corwin." start="00:11:32.959" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I think we have one or two minutes for a few questions." start="00:11:36.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Do you have the pad open or would you" start="00:11:49.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="like me to read the questions for you?)" start="00:11:52.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Corwin: Oh, I managed to close the pad" start="00:11:53.839" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="and I am trying to open it again." start="00:11:58.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="All right, there it opened." start="00:12:00.352" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Bringing it onto a screen where I can see it." start="00:12:03.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Will you read me the first question while I drag windows around, please?" start="00:12:05.500" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="(Amin: Sure. It says, &quot;do you use Emacs as a community building tool?&quot;)" start="00:12:09.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Do I use Emacs as a community building tool, or how do I?" start="00:12:15.600" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="(Amin: It just says do you.) Yes, absolutely." start="00:12:19.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I think Emacs is an ambassador to the GNU tool chain." start="00:12:23.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I think that in the fullness of time," start="00:12:29.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="we will see an Emacs" start="00:12:33.027" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="that makes iOS and Android and other closed-source tools dream." start="00:12:36.558" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="That's why they mock us and call Emacs" start="00:12:43.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="an operating system. It's because" start="00:12:46.689" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="it could be, if we cared for it to be." start="00:12:49.200" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="It's quite a threatening product" start="00:12:51.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="from the perspective of how many problem" start="00:12:55.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="spaces it can address," start="00:12:57.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="how many types of users it can satisfy," start="00:12:58.540" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="the things that we can do to make" start="00:13:01.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="it robust in those environments." start="00:13:04.399" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I mean, we're always thinking about the weak points," start="00:13:06.456" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="but is Emacs a community building tool? Heck yeah." start="00:13:09.524" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template new="1" text="(Amin: There's like one or two more questions." start="00:13:14.639" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I think they're more long-form so it might be better" start="00:13:18.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="if you took them off stream so you could keep the schedule on time.)" start="00:13:22.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I would love to take those questions offline." start="00:13:26.880" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I will respond to you" start="00:13:29.463" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="in writing if we don't get to it" start="00:13:30.908" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="in a breakout room." start="00:13:32.237" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="Thanks so much for joining us." start="00:13:33.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="I can't wait to see the rest of the" start="00:13:35.451" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="conference. See you there!" start="00:13:36.639" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]
+[[!template text="(Amin: Awesome. Thank you again so much, Corwin.)" start="00:13:38.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]]