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Hi! My name is Eduardo Ochs. I'm the author of

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an obscure package called eev and I

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think that it's better to start this

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presentation by the middle of the story -

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by this word here: Maxima.

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Maxima is a computer algebra system

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that has several interfaces. One

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of them is WxMaxima, that looks very

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modern and is very pretty, and it

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looks like this...

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it's a cell based interface. We can type

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an expression here and execute it...

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here's the result.

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But I don't like that interface

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because my memory is very bad, and I type

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very slowly and with lots of mistakes...

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so for me this ugly interface that

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I'm going to show now is much better -

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and here I'm going to show how I am teaching

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that ugly interface to beginners.

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If I type f8 on these three lines here

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it creates a Maxima running inside Emacs -

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I mean, using a terminal and running inside

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a shell buffer in Emacs...

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and if I type f8 on this other the lines here

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the 'f8's send lines to Maxima, and, ta-daaa,

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this small program drew this.

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I live in Brazil and people in

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developed countries cannot imagine

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how are the beginners that we have here...

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in a sense Brazil is another planet.

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Let me explain why, and also let me

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explain why Maxima, why Emacs... because

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people always say "you should use

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programs that everyone finds intuitive,

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like VSCode"...

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well, I teach Calculus in a bad Campus

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of a good Federal University in Brazil.

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My university is called UFF, for

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Universidade Federal Fluminense.

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The main campus of UFF is in Niterói,

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that is a big city near Rio de Janeiro,

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and I work in a city called Rio das Ostras,

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that is is a small city 200 Kms away

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from Rio de Janeiro.

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I started working there in 2009.

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My campus gets very little funding -

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that's a long story that I don't have time

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to tell now - and we get the

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students that don't get enough marks in

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the admission process to go to better places.

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Also, my campus has two institutes -

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I call them The Institute of Humanities

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and The Institute of Inhumanities.

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Each of our institutes has a small building...

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the Humanities building has lots of plants and

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lots of graffittis - I call it the Good Building -

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and the Inhumanities building has lots

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of rules and prohibitions, and I call it the

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Evil Building.

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I heard that the Inhumanities building

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has a laboratory with computers, and that

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it doesn't have any machine that runs Linux...

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but the Inhumanities building is

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shrouded in mystery, and basically

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humans avoid it - only inhumans go there.

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I only discovered how much "another planet"

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Brazil is a few months ago. In May and June

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of this year the federal universities in Brazil

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paralyzed their activities in a nationwide

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strike for two months, and during the strike

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the humanity students occupied the

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Humanities Building and organized lots

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of activities there.

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They asked me if I could give some workshops

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and I offered two hands-on workshops

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on Free Software for beginners -

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basically on Emacs and eev, with

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tutorials with lots of "try this"s...

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and, as usual, the students of

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Computer Science and Engineering ignored

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the workshop completely, and didn't come...

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but some students of psychology and of

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Producão Cultural, which is basically

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techniques for producing cultural

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activities, came to workshop... and they LOVED

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the workshop - they found it FUN.

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And after the workshop I told the

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students that there are lots of things

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that, uh, "everyone knows and I don't",

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and I would like to learn them,

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but I find them too hard to learn by myself

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because I'm a dinosaur - I'm only used to

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interfaces that are very old,

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and that are not graphical... and one

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of the examples of the things that I

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would like to learn was Canva.

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And then the student of Produção Cultural

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taught me Canva in 10 minutes,

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AND THAT CHANGED MY LIFE.

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Anyway, again, I'm working in that place,

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Rio das Ostras, since 2009,

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and the Computer Science students

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here know lots of programs and languages

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that I would like to learn, but in all

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these 15 years the Computer Science

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students only helped me twice.

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It turns out that our Inhumanities

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students don't have a culture of sharing

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and helping - but our Humanities students do.

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Another detail about how much Brazil

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is another planet...

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well, I only discovered this very

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recently, too... my research is in Logic,

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I sometimes go to conferences, usually in

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Brazil, very rarely outside, and people

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here don't bring their laptops to the

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conferences - we don't have a culture

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of sitting together with friends

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or colleagues to learn with them how to

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use the programs that they use...

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for example, many of my friends

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are logicians, so they have to draw

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lots of diagrams, and I don't know how

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they use their programs to draw diagrams...

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I don't know how things are in

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universities with good computer labs but,

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anyway, consider these sentences

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sentences that sort of everybody says...

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"Everyone knows VSCode",

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"Everyone knows Jupiter Notebooks",

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"Everyone draws diagrams with Quiver"...

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Here these things are not true -

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and they are not relevant -

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here knowledge about programs does not

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propagate... and

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one of my goals in life is

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to become friends with some people who

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know how to use for example, code blocks

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in Org, and JavaScript, and learn some of

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their workflows... or, rather one of my

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goals is to become someone who deserves

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help.

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More on Maxima for students...

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remember: our inhumanities students

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don't have a culture of sharing and helping

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but our humanity students do...

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I've been telling my students - I teach

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Calculus 2 and 3 here -that they will learn

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much faster if they learn Maxima,

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and that people who learn Maxima can take

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an optional test and earn extra marks

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in the course, but if they behave

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as typical inhumanities students -

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I mean, not asking questions and

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not helping their colleagues -

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then I won't help help...

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Actually it's even worse. I've

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told my students that my documentation

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is not good enough yet and every

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question helps me a lot, so PLEASE ask

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questions, and I've bagged on my knees...

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and now I can treat students

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who don't ask questions as people who

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won't help someone that they know

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who is begging on his knees!

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Now let me explain another word of

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the title of this presentation.

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The title of this presentation is

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"Emacs, eev, and Maxima - Now!"

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The "Now!" in the title means:

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in less than one hour and even for people

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who have never seen a terminal in their lives.

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Well, my title is a slight exaggeration...

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it only took less than one hour

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for one person, who is a school kid

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from a small City in the North of Brazil,

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who didn't know anything about programming,

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but who was competing in the local

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Math Olympiads, so not a typical person...

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Now let me tell a story based on

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real events and based on a real student.

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The student said: "I have Linux on my

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laptop, can you help me to do blah1?"

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I answered: "Sure, do blah2 and blah3..."

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this was all by chat, I don't remember if

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by WhatsApp or by Telegram...

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then one week passes, and the student

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talks to me again, and the student says:

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"It doesn't work!", and I answer:

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"What happens when you do blah4 and blah5?"

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another week passes, then the student reappears,

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and he says: "It doesn't work!"

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and I answer: "Type blah6 and blah7 in

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the terminal, press ENTER, take a

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photo of your screen... remember, not a

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screenshot, it's a photo of your screen...

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and send it to me." Then the student

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disappears again, another week passes and

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the student reappears and says:

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"How do I open a terminal?"

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Well, then...

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PLONK.

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According to the Jargon file "plonk" is

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the sound of that a newbie makes as he

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falls to the bottom of a kill file.

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I prefer this simpler definition here...

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for me "plonk" is the sound

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that a person makes when he, or she, or they

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hits the bottom of my list of priorities.

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I've been using this slogan with my

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students - it sounds much better in

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Portuguese, sorry... "I am not a telepath,

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and for me it is 100 times harder to

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discover the doubts of people who don't

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talk to me than to discover the doubts of

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people who do talk to me.

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There's an interesting thing here in

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this presentation by Abelson and Sussman.

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Let me explain now this word of

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my title, "Emacs"...

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and the idea is that learning Emacs can

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mean many things, learning Lisp can mean

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many things, and in this presentation...

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oh no, one second...

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sorry, back.

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In this presentation they say...

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"anyone can learn Lisp in one day,

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except that if they already know Fortran,

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then it will take three days".

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And I would add: and if the person

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is starting with Doom Emacs then it would

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take take five years.

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Why? Because the person is using

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a different notion of Emacs,

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and a different notion of Lisp.

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The person is starting by spending five

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years learning how to configure Emacs, and

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the person is using Lisp as a very weird

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configuration language.

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Usually the people who start by Doom Emacs

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they start by configuring Emacs,

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and only then they learn things like

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defun, etc...

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and another slogan that I use a lot

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with my students is that there are

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many cases in which learning just the

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thing B takes 200 hours but learning

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A and then B takes just 20 hours.

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Here are some kinds of beginners

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that I do not want to help.

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First example: a person who says "I can't

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read that page - it has too many links".

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Second example: a person who says

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"I don't want to read anything and

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I don't want to learn anything,

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I want something that just works".

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And third example: "I don't want to

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look at examples, you need to summarize

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everything to me in one paragraph".

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There are more explanations on

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these kinds of beginners at my page

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about this presentation - here.

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And here is one kind of beginner

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that I really want to help.

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Beginners that are nerdy kids

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who are used to:

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reading materials that are too advanced for them,

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understanding only a few percent of what they read,

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remembering just a tiny fraction of what they read,

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going to back to these materials later,

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and taking notes about what they read...

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and who are also always interested in

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experimenting with new ways of taking notes,

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transcribing, summarizing and saving links

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to primary sources.

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I'd like to say something about how

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I've been plonking the paragraph people...

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who are the people who say:

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"I don't want to look at examples,

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you need to summarize everything to me

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in one paragraph".

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Well, I'm a mathematician...

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I work with lots of things

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that can only be summarized in a paragraph

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if we choose the level of who

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we are talking to...

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so we have many different

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one-paragraph summaries,

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one for each level...

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and in many cases this sentence,

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"you need to summarize it

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in one paragraph", is WRONG -

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the person means I want to learn a lot

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in 10 minutes - and this needs diagrams

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animations, AND EXAMPLES.

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This is an example of something

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in mathematics - in category Theory -

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I only understood after too many time -

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after zillions of years...

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It is called The Yoneda Lemma.

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This is the general case -

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this small thing here...

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but I only understood it after

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understanding many particular cases, and

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then organizing them in a way in which

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different figures had similar shapes...

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and the textual explanations

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for the Yoneda Lemma - the one paragraph

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explanations, or the many paragraph

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explanations - never helped the much...

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they contained formulas...

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in mathematics, but written linearly...

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that had too many symbols...

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and my mental buffer is very small...

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and I had to find several tricks to reduce

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the cognitive overload of all these ideas.

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For example, I had to name the symbols

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consecutively, like A, B, C,

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so there's a kind of a temporal order

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in which the symbols that appear first

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have initial letters...

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I had to find a way to put

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an archetypal case and the general case

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side to side -

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they have the same "shape"...

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I had to find good conventions

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for fonts and types...

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I had to choose good meanings

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for what it means...

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sorry, for what are vertical arrows,

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what are horizontal arrows, and so on...

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and what is "above without an arrow"...

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So, how much detail should we include

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in our technical explanations?

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Well there are many measures

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for cognitive (over)load...

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For example, I asked many technical questions

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on the Maxima mailing list

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that got answers that included

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snippets and names of of Lisp functions...

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in Common Lisp, because Maxima is written

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in Common Lisp... and I liked that...

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and I asked some some technical questions

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on the Org mailing list

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and on the Hyperbole mailing list,

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and usually I got answers

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that avoided the technical details...

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note that I chose the term "avoided"

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to denote frustration...

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by the way, if one of my students panics

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on this part here...

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"After setting the user and password

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you will get a Unix prompt"...

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if the student panics on this

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and does not know what to ask

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and just gives up, then...

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plonk.

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So... I was talking a lot about

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plonking people...

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What's left after plonking many people?

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Well, several kinds of beginners

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that I want to interact with...

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note that "kinds" is plural...

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Also, I get a definition for the term

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"beginners"... think on books...

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technical books, that start with

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"This book is written for the persons

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of the types such and such"...

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Maybe several definitions

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for the term "beginners"...

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also, a metric that lets me choose between

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options A, B and C when I'm trying to

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write material for my beginners...

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for example, here, again...

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should I explain what is a Unix prompt?

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No!!!

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Why "no"?

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Well, let me use another example.

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This one I took from a discussion on IRC...

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we were helping a certain beginner

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that was there...

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and one person suggested to the beginner

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to do this: type M-:, and then this

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thing here, and then ENTER.

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And I suggested this instead.

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Copy this expression to your notes,

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and then type C-e C-x C-e...

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and the mnemonic for C-e C-x C-e is

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C-exe, for "execute".

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And then... for me the option 1,

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this option here, is very costly,

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because the person has to type a lot

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without errors,

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and then after running that

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and reading this page here...

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the way of going back to that page is gone.

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So the person has to commit lots

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of information to memory -

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either the person learns from this page

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everything that she needs or the person

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memorizes how to go there the next time....

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and for me the option 2 - this one:

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put this in your notes and then

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execute it with C-exe -

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is much better, because the person

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commits information to notes,

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and the person learns a way to return

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to this node of the manual later...

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and with this the person learns

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another way to use her notes.

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I have a lot of material about that...

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see for example this page here -

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there's a link to it

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in my page for this talk...

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also, I live in a place in which

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the people who find my instructions

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too complex or too boring

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disappear - either for months or forever...

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So if I give an instruction

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that the person cannot understand

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and the person gives up

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I lose the person...

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Now let me do some things in a weird order.

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In a normal presentation this would be

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the conclusion, and it would be presented

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at the end...

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but I will present it now,

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before the technical details.

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So, I was teaching Emacs, eev and Maxima

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for students... did it work well?

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Well... sort of, but in a weird way.

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Many students decided to take my test

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on Emacs, eev, and Maxima...

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let me consider only the 35 students

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in the two last semesters that were able

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to do what I asked, that was to use a link

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like this one to go to my notes...

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they had to go to a specific small program

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in Maxima, copy that program to their notes,

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modify it a bit to make it solve

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a slightly different problem,

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and then save the new program.

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So it was mostly a test on the interface,

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and to test if they knew some

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very basic things on Maxima...

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but of these 35 students only 10 students

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asked questions on the Telegram group...

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Mostly they discussed

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with other students...

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sometimes live - they would bring

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their laptops to the university to discuss...

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they only do that very rarely,

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but they brought it...

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other times they would discuss

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with their colleagues on Discord...

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but I got very little feedback

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for my usability test.

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So my experiment failed - in the sense

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that I didn't get the feedback

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that I expected - I only got a fraction

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of the feedback that I expected...

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...but I learned lots of things.

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Well, I got very angry, very frustrated,

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but I saw that I can't invest a lot of energy

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on students who... how do I say?

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who "won't talk to me".

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then I decided to make contact

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with some schools - secondary schools -

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and to make a long story short...

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in one of the schools I was

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very well received...

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the students asked lots of questions,

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and in the middle of the discussion

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we were discussing this little program here,

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that splits the the frame in two windows

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and displays the file ~/HELP

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in the window at the right...

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and I showed them Elisp tutorial,

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that starts... here...

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and right in its third section

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it explains 'quote'.

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So, I had to explain to them

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how we can use quote to pass...

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to avoid evaluating a program...

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we can use quote to pass unevaluated

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programs as arguments...

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and quote blew their minds,

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and I was amazed by their questions,

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and I saw more clearly that the campus

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in which I work is a hole,

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and that I need to do more things outside.

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Now let's see some technical details.

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What exactly am I teaching to

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these students?

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Basically, my old tutorial for eev

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was this one... it started with a

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section on installing eev, and then it

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explained Lisp, and how to use

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elisp hyperlinks...

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and then lots of other things...

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but I'm using this new tutorial here,

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that I am not announcing in many places

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because I wanted to test it a lot

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before making it very public...

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and it starts with other installation

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instructions, that start with

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instructions for installing WSL

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on a machine with Windows,

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and then installing Debian there

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and then after that people have to install

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Emacs, and then they have to install eev...

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And I'm also using this map here,

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that I'm reorganizing,

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so it's going to change a lot

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in the next days...

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it has a 2-dimensional map here,

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and it has lots of things that I'm putting

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in a single place to make it easier

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to answer questions, and to show

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to the students that I have answers

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for the most common questions...

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Remember, my target audience

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is mostly composed of beginners who have

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never seen a terminal in their lives,

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and that get bored very quickly...

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and when they get bored they disappear.

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What are my main goals for the first day?

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I want them to "install everything",

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where "everything" means WSL on their

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Windows machines, then Debian, Emacs, eev,

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lots of Debian packages that they install

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with this block here...

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After that they need to run

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some Maxima programs, and some test blocks...

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and configure Emacs, and create a first set

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of executable notes, and I consider

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that after that the person is

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autonomous.

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I said that the students

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learn how to "Run some Maxima programs".

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Let me be more precise about that.

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The first step is something

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that I call "The 5-minute workshop"...

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it happens in the classroom,

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on my laptop, and I make the students

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run this.

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Actually in a first moment I run

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this thing here, and then I ask them

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to run it themselves.

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So: I type f8 on these three things here,

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we get a target buffer running Maxima,

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then I type f8 several other times here...

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when I type f8 here it opens a GNUPlot

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window, that I have to close

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by typing 'q' here...

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and that's it. And then I say:

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now it's your turn. And the students go there,

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they type f8 three times, and then they

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type f8 f8 f8 f8 f8 f8 f8 q f8 q...

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The second step is similar -

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is another individual workshop,

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also just a few minutes long,

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in which they learn how to access my notes.

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My notes on Maxima are here -

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I mean, this is the HTMLized version...

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it starts with a header, then a huge index,

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then many blocks like this...

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and this is a specific block that corresponds

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to the thing that we we ran

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in the first 5-minute workshop.

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And in this second 5-minute workshop

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they run the instructions in this section...

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usually I skip this thing in the first moment,

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then I explain it to them...

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and they run something like this,

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that downloads a copy

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of my notes on Maxima,

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puts that copy in a temporary buffer...

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and they can run the thing here

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exactly in the same way as before...

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And I also ask them to run the small

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Maxim programs in other blocks,

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like this one, for example...

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if we run this it calculates the solution

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of a question that I put in a test

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one or two semesters ago...

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it starts by calculating several integrals

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and then it organizes all the solutions

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in a big Matrix like this...

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I said that at one point the students

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have to install lots of Debian packages.

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This happens after they have installed

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Debian, then Emacs, and eev...

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and they already know a bit about eepitch,

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so they are in this section of the

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instructions, and they just have to type

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f8 here several times and watch what

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happens...

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after that we have many options,

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and I have this map here and I usually

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choose a path according to the interests

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and the questions of the students...

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and there are many things that can go wrong,

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so this page also works as as a place

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in which I put all my troubleshooting

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instructions...

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and if a student has a question...

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I mean, suppose that the student is

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talking to me by WhatsApp or Telegram,

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and the student is saying:

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okay I installed the things such and such,

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and I tried the thing blahblah, and

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something went wrong...

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and I say: ok, can you send me a screenshot

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or a photo of your screen?

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And then we can troubleshoot that

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by using a section of this page here.

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This is a work in progress,

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I'm reorganizing this thing for

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the 10th time...

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and the rest of what can happen

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with these students can't be explained

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clearly in a video... so I'm going

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to put the all the other stuff in the

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page of the video, and I'm going to stop

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the video here.

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So: thanks, and bye!