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Good afternoon or good evening, everyone.

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Today, my talk is going to be on Org Mode

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and org-roam for scholars and researchers.

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Leo has talked about the overall

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picture of org-roam and

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org-roam-bibtex. I will be

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talking more about

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the research process itself using these
tools.

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All right. So, just to introduce that the

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research process is really messy.

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You're always working in

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piecemeal tasks and things move around

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all the time.

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There needs to be a system where you can

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organize all these tasks,

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all these ideas in a way that is

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flexible and effective.

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So my motivation is that research is
hard

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and writing about it is even
more difficult.

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My goal is to add some structure to

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this whole madness.

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Here's a list of some of the stuff

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that I've been using since I first

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learned about Emacs in 2019

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and what I've found useful

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within my research process.

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I've organized Org Mode for Researchers

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and Scholars Within the Writing Process

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into three modules. First, there's

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the planning aspect of it,

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then you've got the writing and the

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reference management, which I will join
together

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by looking at the example of doing your

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literature review.

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When we're talking about planning,

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we're talking about either task
management or

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time management with task management.

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You've got

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Org Mode's TODOs, tags, and

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categories. These are really powerful

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tools that you could use

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in your Org files to

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organize your tasks and

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your appointments. There are different

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types of TODOs that you can either set

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globally in your init file or they can

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be file-/buffer-specific.

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That means, based on context,

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based on the type of manuscript you're
working on, whether

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it's a literate programming report

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or your actual thesis/dissertation.

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Also, these TODOs are either created

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as a subtree, like think of them as

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headings and sections if you use LaTeX,

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or inline tasks, which are like Org
inline tasks.

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I like Org inline tasks
because I can add

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TODOs between two paragraphs. That

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way, it doesn't show up

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in the table of contents when I export

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into PDF, HTML, or

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anything else. So this is an

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example of buffer-specific TODOs,

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and this is an example of a little

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programming report that I was working on

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where I was dealing with

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data and analysis and all of that
stuff.

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I needed context-specific TODOs to

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use them within this buffer.

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That's how I would organize it.

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There's also another example

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of an Org inline task where you could

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see it in the middle between the
two headings.

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That way, it wouldn't show up in the

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table of contents, and it would look

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neater within the

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text when you export it.

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I also added a tag of :noexport:

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so it won't show up at all

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when I export it into either PDF,

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which I use all the time.

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Another useful tool

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for the research and just

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general planning

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is the org-capture. When I first

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started with Emacs,

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actually, it was for org-agenda.

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I went crazy with my capture template.

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I created a template for

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everything because I was just so
excited.

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But with time, I was using less and less

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of them, so I kept taking them out.

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Now this is my simplified

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capture templates that I use, either for

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a general TODO,

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for a regular appointment, a fleeting

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note, research tasks (because those

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are what I focus on,

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like my bread and butter), and then

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finally with meetings, which I find

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sometimes I don't use it as much because

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I would just have the Org file ready
instead of

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needing to capture,

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you know, open a capture template.

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Right. Org Agenda. That's how I got into
Emacs.

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I needed to organize my life.

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I found Emacs and it's been great
ever since.

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It populates all your TODOs and

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appointments into a singular view. So the

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default view, I think, is a week view.

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However, I use org-super-agenda. Love this

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package. I set up my agenda as a

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daily view with appointments,

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deadlines, and a habit tracker.

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A side note, you guys: I'm still

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struggling with organizing the perfect

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agenda, so it's a process.

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Take it easy, all right?

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So this is just an overview of my daily

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agenda. As you can see they're just

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appointments that I import from Gmail
using org-gcal;

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a simple habit tracker of daily

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free writing--

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as you can see, there are a lot of times

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where I'm skipping, and the asterisk is

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the one where I've completed that day,

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so, you know, it's a process--and then

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regular deadlines.

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So what happens is that I have other

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TODOs that I have not scheduled or not
added a deadline

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but they're just tasks that keep piling
up.

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When I first started with Emacs
and org-agenda,

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I had everything in there, and it got

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overwhelming. Then I decided, no,

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I'm not gonna even let them show up.

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So what I would do

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at the beginning of each week or the

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night before,

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I would sit down, look at all my

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TODOs that I have not assigned yet to a
deadline or a

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schedule or just a simple

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timestamp, and I would organize them

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throughout the week.

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So, here's an example of what I did.

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On that Wednesday, from my Gmail, I had

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all these appointments, but

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one of them is I have a writing group
session.

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So I looked at my tasks and I

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thought, okay, then I will just

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assign, for example, my Emacs
slides

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or the framework diagram into that

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writing session.

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All I did was just add an active
timestamp.

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That is all I needed to do, and it went

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straight into my

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appointment. Now, if I miss that,

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it won't show up on the next day. So if

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you put in a deadline,

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it will show up as an overdue, but if you

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have no deadline or schedule, it will not

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show up in your daily org agenda.

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So, just a star.

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All right. Another way of accessing your

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TODOs is that if it's

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Org file-specific,

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buffer-specific,

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and so... Like when we talked about like

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whether to have a big-ass Org file or

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like tiny files,

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it all depends. This isn't the...

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you know, the way this depends,

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because if you're working on a

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dissertation, it's a huge manuscript.

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You need to work

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on that Org file all the time.

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Then yes, my TODOs should be in that

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file specifically, because every time,

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if I'm visiting this Org file all the

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time, I should be able to just look at my

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tasks from within that buffer.

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And so I use org-sidebar to

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keep all these specific TODOs

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within that Org file.

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I find it helpful. Okay.

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Now that we're going into the writing

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and reference management...

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We'll call it a literature review.

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This is something I've built as a
schema.

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I think that it works for now.

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It requires one outside software, which
is Zotero, what

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I use. It's an open source reference

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management software. It's great.

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But the thing to keep in mind is that I

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use two plugins that are really needed
for when

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we work with org-roam-bibtex, org-roam,

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Org Mode, and the ZotFile.

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Better BibTeX organizes your
reference keys

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in a way, in a fashion that

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works for you. For me, all my reference

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keys are last author and year.
With ZotFile,

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I let it rename all the

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PDF files

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the same way that I have for

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my Bib keys, which is

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last name of author and year. All right.

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Once you export your entire

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library as a Bib file, then you can work

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on it within Org Mode and Emacs

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using the following packages.

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So with org-roam-bibtex, it

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creates an Org file for each Bib entry.

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You have the option of

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templating and doing other stuff with it.

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Then finally, there's this

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orb-pdf-scrapper.

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I've used it briefly but I think the
potential

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with orb-pdf-scrapper is if you're going to

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do a bibliometric study or

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a systematic literature review, there's

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something there, but I have to look

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through it.

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Anyway, so once you create

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your reference file of reference X and

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you're writing your notes,

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you can either go... Like, with going

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through Org Mode, you're writing

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your ideas, you're writing your notes,

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you're assigning tasks,

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and then there's org-transclusion, which

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I will mention briefly at the end,

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and ways to extract. If you're going to

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go through the org-roam...

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Things that you're going to use within

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org-roam... It's a great way to build your

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database. You start making the

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connections. You can visualize your

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notes and how these references are

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linked to each other

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through the org-roam server or

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org-roam graph.

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All right. This is just notes for later.

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So this is an example of an org-roam

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file that I have.

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For example, if I'm working on adaptation

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policy, I have these hyperlinks that are

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linked to other concepts and ideas such
as either

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climate security,

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changing global environment, so on and

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so forth. The backlinks

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are other references that talk about

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this specific concept.

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This is really helpful. Then, when

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you visualize it, the picture on the left

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(which I'm sure looks really small),

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you can see the connections that it's

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making with other

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references. Of course, this is just

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like a buffer network. When you look at
the entire

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database network...

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It's growing. Okay.

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So going into org-roam-bibtex...

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It utilizes a combination of the

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org-ref package, helm-bibtex,

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bibtex-completion.

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It works with org-roam functionalities

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and other good stuff. This is an example

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of my org-roam-bibtex file. All right. So

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I've created the template which I
pretty much use,

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what Leo has produced in his

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tutorial. I think it's great. It

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works well for me.

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What it does is that it works

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with your bib file.

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So if you're in your bib file, you have a

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sub entry that's called keywords, and

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usually that's within

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a journal article. The author would

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specify these keywords. When it gets
imported into

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Zotero, it extracts those keywords and
then it

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gets populated as an Org file

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with org-roam-bibtex. I always start

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with the meta information first, and then

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I would write my notes

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after that. This is an example, though,

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for reference of a physical book, so

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I don't have a pdf file for it.

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So when I've figured out a new idea

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for it, if I'm writing notes on it,

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I would create a property that says
pages.

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That way, it's easier for you when you go

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back to citing

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certain ideas or something, that you

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have the pages prepared there.

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It's easier that way. Okay.

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org-noter which is something I

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use a lot, especially with journal

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articles that have PDFs and stuff like
that.

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They're really helpful if you are going to...

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If you've just started using Emacs

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and org-roam,

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and you have all these PDFs that have

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all the annotations and highlighting and

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all that stuff, with org-noter you can

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just use the org-noter-create-skeleton

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command and it will populate all your

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notes that have already been

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entered within the PDF file if you're

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using an outside software, and creates
them as a neat

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Org file. I highly recommend.

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Finally, org-transclusion.

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I think this is still in its beta phase,

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but I've been enjoying it so far.

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I'm guessing people know what

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transclusion means, which is like

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copy-pasting text from

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one Org file to another. This is helpful.

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I think I peeked at a question that

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was talking about

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linking to other Org files.

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I think org-transclusion could really
work. It's

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equivalent to the include

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function within Org Mode, but I think...

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So if you have other files

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that you know which region that you

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need in another file, you could use the

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#+INCLUDE, but with

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org-transclusion... It's great. I mean you

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just have...

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you're just linking one part to the
other.

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Sort of... Like, not refiling, but you know

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hyperlinking.

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So this is an example of what

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org-transclusion looks like.

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The highlighted problem statement

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is from another

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Org file. Then what I would do is

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just link it to there, and there was a

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transclusion command.

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I wish I made another screenshot of it.

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When you invoke org-transclusion-mode,

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it turns... It prints it out like that.

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It's in view mode. Then when you want

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to edit, it will take you back to that

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buffer and you can edit the text

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however you want. All right. So, thank
you so much.

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I wanted to leave room for questions,

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but special thanks to all the folks that

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work on org-roam, org-roam-bibtex,
org-roam-server,

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org-transclusion, and of course alphapapa on

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org-super-agenda and org-sidebar.

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That's how I got into Emacs. Thank you.

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(Leo: All right. Well, thank you. So yeah,

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this time I'll be the one asking the

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question and not Amin.

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I'm filling big shoes right now,

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so you'll have to bear with me folks.

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So thank you so much, Noorah, for your

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presentation that is incredibly

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interesting.

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Would you mind if I fed you questions

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from the charts?)

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Noorah: Go ahead. (Leo: Okay. so the first one I've

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picked on my end was "Did you try using

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ebib instead of Zotero,

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and if so, is it better than Zotero in

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some ways?)

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Noorah: No, I have not used Ebib. I've only used

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Mendeley

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and then they got bought by Elsevier,

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and so I was, like, okay I'm done,

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I'm going to Zotero. There are a lot

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of plugins with Zotero that you can play

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around with.

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I can't speak for Ebib, but definitely

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Zotero has been a good experience so
far.

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(Leo: Yes, same. I also do research on

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the side;

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as I told you, English major, and yeah I

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also do Zotero.

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Some people have been using uh a

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connector between Zotero and Emacs which

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has... they've had great success with
them but

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personally I haven't

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touched it already, so yeah.

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Oh, go ahead. Sorry.) Noorah: All right. So far, I

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don't have any problems with Zotero, but

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maybe if I run into something, I might
check out

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Ebib in the future.

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(Leo: yeah, definitely. I think zotero is a very

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solid project. You know, the fact that

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it's being used

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by people outside of Emacs also ensures

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that there's quite a lot of backing

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behind the software,

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which is reassuring when your livelihood

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depends on your research.)

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Noorah: Right. And then I think one more thing

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with Zotero is that you can create

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groups, so if you're in a collaborative
project,

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you can create a reference,

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a library just for your group, and I think

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that could help.

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I'm going to be in a project next

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semester that requires that.

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(Leo: Yeah, definitely. I believe the ability to

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have folders inside Zotero

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makes it incredibly useful to manage

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your different projects, concurrent
projects.

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So moving on to other questions, do you

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have any suggestion on what subjects or

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things should be tags or separate org-roam

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files for cross-linking?)

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Right. So far, now, I'm having

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trouble with "should I be combining

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certain concepts together as one?"

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This is where the thought process

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starts coming to fruit, is that when you

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start combining ideas together so you
won't need a

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specific tag

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and another one that are like similar in

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ideas...

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I'm not sure if that answers the

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question, but so far I've been using

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the org-roam the default way,
which is

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many small files and then just

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linking them to my... Like, either if I have

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a report to write, or if I have an

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essay to write...

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I think you're muted.

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(Leo: I did two stupid things. The
first one

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was spilling out my water. The second one

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was speaking without actually turning on

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my microphone.

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Let's just hope that nothing is going

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to fry in the near vicinity of me right
now.

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But yeah, I believe you've answered

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the question, so don't worry about it. I'm

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slightly wet right now, which is not a

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very agreeable feeling, but we'll have to

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carry on, I suppose.

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Another question: "is there a place where

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people are collaborating on research

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about Emacs?" So do you want to try to

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take this one?)

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Noorah: I don't know, but I'm definitely

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interested in the user experience of

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Emacs, so if anyone wants to work on
that,

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I'm happy.

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(Leo: Well you do have a a pretty good

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candidate in front of you, if I

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should say so myself. I'm incredibly

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interested about

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the ability to do research in Emacs

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and about the ability to

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preach the FLOSS way

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to academia and to the academe,

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especially because I believe there's

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really something

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great to be done. Sorry, I'm just looking

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at the puddle of water on the side which

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is slightly oozing my way,

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which is not a very good feeling, really.

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I believe some work

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could be done, and if people are

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interested in the chat right now,

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do get in touch with us. Both

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Noorah and I are on our Slack channel.
Yes, I know, Slack,

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the corporate hive mind that is Slack.

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But we've decided with org-roam to use
Slack.

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You can find us very easily.

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If you want to talk about these topics,

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by all means, do, and we'll be very

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interested to answer your questions.)

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Noorah: I have a question here that says, "How

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does the view for time blocking works?"

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I use org-super-agenda, so

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what happens is that my active

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timestamps are only in my Gmail
Org file.

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If you use org-gcal, you have to

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specify a certain Org file. When it

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imports them, it imports them as

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active timestamps. I make sure

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whenever I create a TODO or even a
research task

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that it doesn't have a timestamp on it,

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because what I want to do is go back

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and then move around these tasks

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according to my either weekly

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schedule, or monthly, or however long you

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want to do it.

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So yeah, only active timestamps or

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deadline um appear in your time grid.

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So that could work. (Leo: That's very good.

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Just to interject for a second

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about this,

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you know with org-roam right now, we're

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mostly focused on optimization,

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but we're hoping to move on to UX very

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soon. So all those matters about

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having TODOs in your files, it

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is something that we've been thinking

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about with Jethro Kuan, who is my main

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co-maintainer for org-roam. We'll be
working on this in

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the coming months, so don't worry too

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much about it and stay tuned.)

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Noorah: Yeah. So I've got the ebib

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and what else... What subjects... I think...

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Okay!

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What is this question? "Have you seen the

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project Papis?"

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I'm not sure what... oh it's a Zotero

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alternative. Okay.

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I'll look into it. Thank you.

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(Leo: I don't know about it either, so

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please look into it and let me know.)

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Have we covered all the questions?

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(Leo: I believe we have. We have about

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two-minute leeway

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for me to move into the next talk, so

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we're right on time.)

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All right. Thank you so much. Really

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appreciate it. Good luck everyone!

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(Leo: well thank you, and thank you so much for

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coming, and allowing me not to

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be the only one

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talking about org-roam today.) Noorah: Sounds good.

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All right. (Amin: Thank you both very much.)